That's hypocrisy if I've ever seen it. You think gays should have equal protection but when they ask to be able to visit their partner in the hospital, to have custody of their child if their partner dies, anything like <i>that</i>, then oh no, it's bad. How does gay marriage affect you? Only thing it does is make sure that all human beings are truly equal.Darkslash: I agree with you on most all points. The government should give equal protection to gays, straights, everybody. My dad says that we may not like what people do, but because we live in a free country, we must be willing to live and let live. [/B]
Civil union doesn't necessarily give a person the same rights as someone who is married. And if it did, then why not <i>call it marriage?</i> Remember what happened last time people were "Seperate But Equal?"
Newsflash: they DON'T. There's no way to prove someone has no more attractions to somebody of the same gender. They're probably repressing it. However, sexuality is fluid, and I think it's possible for some of these people to be happy with someone of the opposite gender. There are straight people who have suddenly found themselves attracted to someone of the same gender, and vice versa. gay and straight are not just black and white, I think a lot of people are at <i>least</i> incidentally gay or incidentally straight if they identify as gay. So maybe these "rehabilitated" people were so lucky . . . or maybe they're just lying to themselves.
My sister feels that gays should be allowed to get married, simply because "they're going to do it whether they're married or not." But I remember reading studies where gays were "rehabilitated" (the study's term, NOT mine) into being straight. I'll try and dig it up if anyone wants to see. If they truly born gay, how could they become straight without seriously messing up their mental state?
Sexuality can change. But it isn't conscious. Attraction doesn't work in such a way that you can start saying "I'm going to be attracted to this type of person" and it'll work. Too many people think gay people are attracted to anything of the same gender that moves, but that's not true. It's no different than straight people being attracted to people with, say, red hair. It's a <i>trait</i> someone has you find attractive. A gay person and a straight person are no different than a girl who likes really muscular guys and a girl who finds that idea repulsive and instead likes, maybe thinner guys.Originally posted by Katari
[B]STL: Okay, fine, but have you made an active, conscious effort at becoming straight? If not, how do you know that you were born with it? All that would mean is that being gay is the only thing you've tried yet. I know, this arguement can go the other way, too: you could say that since I've never tried being gay, I don't know if I was born straight. But would that not prove I'm born 100% straight?
There are so many people who found it hard to deal with their being gay. They try to repress it and then they try to be attracted to the opposite sex. But they probably never truly <i>stop</i> being attracted to people of the same gender.
I tried it for a while. I couldn't bear the idea that I was gay so I denied it until it was just unrealistic to do so. And then being gay became a part of my identity, so when I found myself attracted to a guy, I passed it off as an "incidental" attraction. But then it happened again. So I can't force myself into being completely gay rather than bisexual now either. I guess you could say I tried to make the "choice" to be completely gay and it <i>failed</i>.
define "special" treatment, please?Some also feel that gays play the "gay card" too often, wanting special treatment because they are gay. Well, why shouldn't I demand special treatment for being straight? Because it's selfish and spoiled, for one thing. And because, if no one is considered equal, then we're in big trouble as a world.