Okay... so, anyone that's bickering: Shut up.
*cracks neck* Thanks. Now why do you guys continue to bicker when both sides have given what they don't like, what they want, and what they'll give in return? Look, you guys are going back and forth like Isreal and Palestine right now, and you're acting like just as big of politicians. I don't get it, you have this chance right now, right in front of you, to reach a compromise that's mutually beneficial, but I'm beginning to think you don't want a solution, you want to be right. It does not matter if you think there's no problem, because there is; if you can read through this 400+ reply thread and tell me there's not a problem, then you're entitled to that and I'm entitled to question whether you actually read it. It does not matter who is more at fault or who's the better man, what matters is that both sides can get what they want. Now, damn it, I'm tired of this, and I'm tired of quite a few people here; you shape up now and start acting like the bright, kind people you are, or I'm getting the hell out of here because frankly, I don't want anything else to do with a forum that's unwilling to do anything but bicker. We've done a great job showing we can argue back and forth, get personal, try to one-up someone or everyone, deny our own problems, and twist and pervert someone's words to mean something else. This is how every single thread that has any promise at helping this forum goes, and I'm just sick and frigging tired of it.
So look, let's take a different approach: Who here is not willing to do anything but bicker? I'm serious, if you're only here to be a brute and are not looking to find an agreement to a problem that's plagued lea for at least four months now, say so. If you're only here to say you're right, or a group of people is right, and you're unwilling to admit your own faults or the faults of that group of people, and work on them, then say so. And look, if you feel that you've done nothing wrong in regards to bickering, and you can look back through this thread and still keep that mindset, then hey, you must not have done anything wrong in this thread and this just doesn't apply to you. So yeah, if you're only here to cause problems, let us know. If you're not, then quit bickering and fix the problem. Now.
And while you're at it, read vidan's post ^