The Incredibles

**Mushroom** · February 28th, 2005, 08:25 PM

I agree with what A-non-a-mus just said. The characters are just so much more alive and pleasing to the eye as well as background images and so forth. (Did anyone notice how how "flat" personality wise the characters in Finding Nemo were, no depth! They depending on there cutesy looks to get them through the movie, pathetic!)
Besides 3D is only what a computer can do, where as 2D includes many people working hard and really believing in the project, it's what the person can do therefore it's much more satifying to them when the project is completed, they can step back with a smile and say,
"I animated that!" and they really did animate it, they worked long and hard for about a week to get a 5 minute scene but look how much it means to them. Face it 2D is just better!

**CheshireCat** · February 28th, 2005, 09:49 PM

Shrek 1 and 2 were both such ugly films. Funny though... kinda. Good voice acting. Good music. I never really liked Shrek. Not too original if you think about it.

I liked Shark Tale. Took a while to get used to the look of the film but hey. The voice acting was great.. the animation was a lacking. Renders were beautiful. Character designs were disturbing. Would have been cooler with it's original title, "Sharkslayer". I may be a but bias on this one. I love Will Smith.

Incredibles was just that. Incredible. Pixar is awesome. But Brad Bird is wrong about "best studio ever." Boy was he off. Pixar has lightyears to travel before they can even consider themselves "one of the best studios." Lightyears. Pixar needs to pull their heads from out of the clounds and realize that without Disney they would be nothing. They would still be scraching out commercials and doing LucasArt's dirty work if Eisner never gave them the light of day. Good studio? Yes. Best studio ever? Hell no. Far far far from it.

**LunarCat** · February 28th, 2005, 10:34 PM

I also miss 2-D animation,

3-D is just not the same....

**lion_roog** · February 28th, 2005, 11:12 PM

**Sharifu** · February 28th, 2005, 11:22 PM

I've seen The Incredibles, Shrek 2 and Sharktale... If it's animated I go see it. I mean I'm just that much of an animation fan.

But 2-D animation is definitely my fav... And I miss it so much. I want some more 2-D feature films. It has so much more emotion that 3-D just can't seem to match... (Well that's what I think)

**unregistered user** · March 1st, 2005, 12:09 AM

I'm not too worried about it really. They made a mistake getting rid of it, and eventually they'll realize that people like 2-D animation still, and they'll make some more.

Personally, I'm waiting for Disney to get rid of Pixar, and try a 3-D movie for themselves. I'm really hoping it sucks too so they might get the idea that 2-D is more there thing.

**jannali** · March 1st, 2005, 02:28 AM

Originally posted by Sharifu
But 2-D animation is definitely my fav... And I miss it so much. I want some more 2-D feature films. It has so much more emotion that 3-D just can't seem to match... (Well that's what I think)

OMG exactly, with 2d its so much more emotional and it gives me personally such an awe inspiring feeling inside of me. 3d seems so fake and cold to me.

oh and did you see in the memorial video thing they showed, Frank Thomas died this year! i was so sad!!! such talent, gone

i miss the old days of disney

**CheshireCat** · March 1st, 2005, 02:29 AM

Ravoc, no they won't.

You have to remember that animation is directed towards an audience of kids. Kids like 3D. Our generation has trouble letting go of 2D because we grew up with it. We were raised in the 90's... the Golden Age of Animation. As times change so does technology. We're always striving for a better way of doing things and animation is better and more realistic though computers. That's just the way it is.

Disney Feature has no plans for any traditionally animated movies for the next 8 years.

**CheshireCat** · March 1st, 2005, 02:33 AM

And also... Disney HAS done computer animation before. (Dinosaurs). Chicken Little comes out this summer and 4 other 3D movies are in the works right now!

There's a 50% chance that Pixar will get back together with Disney. After the split when Cars is done, Pixar will loose all their production funding. In their contract Pixar is listed as an FX house, therefore they only get a small fraction of the profits. Pixar is poor.

**Sharifu** · March 1st, 2005, 04:23 AM

Ah yes... Dinosaur....

Even though the plot was weak... I rather liked Dinosaur. (Not only because I love dinosaurs

) I love the beautiful score and it's just that I think the animation is very very detailed and has more life to it then Pixar's style. Pixar, to me, looks like, I don't know, a more plastic like feeling to the characters? Although I do think Pixar comes up with great stories for their movies.

Originally posted by CheshireCat
Disney Feature has no plans for any traditionally animated movies for the next 8 years.

Damn, that's a long time.

**2 Die FR** · March 1st, 2005, 05:34 AM

Originally posted by CheshireCat
Disney Feature has no plans for any traditionally animated movies for the next 8 years.

WHAT THE---??!?
THEY CAN'T DO THAT!!!
How can Disney possibly SURVIVE doing strictly computerized animated films??? Traditional animation is their realm, their area of expertise, it's what they have been doing for 70 years, why the heck are they doing this now?...

Don't get me wrong, I appreciate so-called 3d animation for what it is, and I think Pixar's films are a triumph in every respect, but I agree with everyone here when they say that it looks cold and uninspiring and...somehow less real than the animation I know and love.

Sorry...I just had to get that out of my system.
:woeisme: I still can't believe it...

**unregistered user** · March 1st, 2005, 08:06 PM

Yes, I did forget about Dinosaur. Dinosaur was a BIG flop for them though, they said so themselves. BUT, that was mainly because the Discovery channel came out with Walking With Dinosaurs, using identical technology, right before Dinosaur premiered.

*long depressed sigh* Dang.. I believe I no longer like Disney at all. *looks to WB and DW for any hope*

**CheshireCat** · March 2nd, 2005, 02:11 AM

Did everyone forget that Disney Feature fired all their 2D animators last year? Y'all are acting so shocked that Disney has given up on 2D. XD All of the 2D units were thrown out.

**Sombolia** · March 2nd, 2005, 03:25 AM

Originally posted by Xinithian
Best animated picture is silly. There's only about 3 movies out there anyways, and it's obvious as which one will win. It'll be interesting this year with all of the new animated movies to see which one wins.

Agreed.

Oh, poor, poor Disney.. :woeisme: The mighty have fallen.

**unregistered user** · March 9th, 2005, 05:52 PM

I haven't seen The Incredibles yet, but, it looks like it's a great movie. I think buying the DVD is recommended.

**Suki** · March 13th, 2005, 05:09 AM

Originally posted by Ravoc
Personally, I'm waiting for Disney to get rid of Pixar, and try a 3-D movie for themselves. I'm really hoping it sucks too so they might get the idea that 2-D is more there thing.

Actually, I believe the movie Chicken Little isn't PIXAR. It's Disney themselfs, I think. Cuz I didn't see PIXAR's name on any of the trailers...

EDIT: The only difference I see in 3D movies from 2D movies is that there isn't any lines in the characters.

Seriously, I don't get why you all are acting nutz and like Cat Hicks said, they closed down their 2D units last summer. What's the big deal, fussing over "OMFG, 3D IS TEH SEXORS! 2D IS TEH ROXORS!!!!!!!!"? Sheesh.

*steps over on Cat's side*

**Sharifu** · March 13th, 2005, 05:52 AM

Oh Suki, you just don't understand the type of passion we have for 2-D animation.

It is very different, at least in my eyes.

**Sombolia** · March 14th, 2005, 02:35 AM

Originally posted by Suki
Actually, I believe the movie Chicken Little isn't PIXAR. It's Disney themselfs, I think. Cuz I didn't see PIXAR's name on any of the trailers...

EDIT: The only difference I see in 3D movies from 2D movies is that there isn't any lines in the characters. Seriously, I don't get why you all are acting nutz and like Cat Hicks said, they closed down their 2D units last summer. What's the big deal, fussing over "OMFG, 3D IS TEH SEXORS! 2D IS TEH ROXORS!!!!!!!!"? Sheesh. *steps over on Cat's side*

I don't mind 3D too much..

But can you imagine 3D TLK...?

I mean, look at the beginning of TLKSE's menu screen.. That was just scary.

**Aurelian** · March 15th, 2005, 05:31 AM

*NOTE* In the interest of my health, I am requesting that sombody hold Suki and ChildOfThePride back before I make my announcement.

Just reminding everybody the "The Incredibles" is officially released on DVD today.

*Runs at top speed, in a vain attempt to avoid the Incredible-holics*

**Sombolia** · March 15th, 2005, 05:45 AM

Not today.

Tomorrow.

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