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    Senior Member nathalie's Avatar
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    You call it the Cristina Aguilera way, I call it "going all Mariah Carey" haha

    Banzai and Ed were completely changed, new names and everything.
    The biggest shame is, they took 2 comedians to voice them, and I personally didn't notice that at all.

    They could have never forced the original voice actors anyway.
    Matthew for example is doing his own thing, doing plays, being on stage, he's in London now for the past few months doing his play, so I doubt he would have had time to do the voice recordings if he wanted to, as he needs rehearsels, and did theater at the time in the US aswel.

    The voices from the cubs could have been the adults now, that would have been cool to see. But JTT's voice would not suite adult Simba in any way.
    Niketa Calame was at the US world premiere though.

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    Ah yes, about that Beyonce's overdone, showoff, Christina Aguilera/Mariah Carey style singing... yeah, it made me cringe too xP
    And it's not just the singing, it also changes the whole mood of the scene. CYFTLT is supposed to be a calm, soothing song. It's a serenade for lovers, not a national anthem.
    It's also why it's supposed to take place during twilight moving towards night (Where's the "sweet caress of twilight"?).

    And... this might just be me, I don't know, but I like more the idea that it's an external voice singing and not the characters themselves. In the original movie it's not really Simba and Nala singing the whole song, but rather a sort of narrator voice singing about how they're both feeling. The word "love" may not even be in their minds at that moment, it's just happening to them. They're not telling us in their voices that they're falling in love, they're SHOWING us how they're falling in love with a lovely song in the background about love.

    In the 2019 movie, both Simba and Nala are basically screaming it themselves to the audience, "I'm falling in love with this other lion!!!", and it feels like it comes out of nowhere, no build up to it, no expressions to show it, it's just "Yay! I met my friend again! and now we're suddenly in looove!"... only to have a little argument and decide that was all for nothing and part ways before night even begun -.-

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    Aka STM (Administrator ) Sadiki's Avatar
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    Quite interesting to see what everyone have thought of the new remake. I have tried to keep all spoilers to minimum for the whole making of it, with just watching the trailers and all and trying to get as authentic normal viewing as you can by being part of the fandom. We saw it a little over week ago on Friday, but as we have had our nephew visiting, I haven't had much time to be on computer so haven't shared any thoughts until now. I will say wont have anything to say about the cast as I grew up and seen the original movie about 800 times and only about dozen in English so the I don't think I'm fit to compare the voice cast.

    Also, I'm not sure if people were aware that there is build in spoiler wrapping on Vbulletin. to use it just write
    [SPOILER = "whatever you want the spoiler button to say" and close it with square bracket

    "your story goes here"

    when finished
    write [/SPOILER and close it with square bracket

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    Okay, so I finally got round to watching this and I was sadly very unimpressed.

    I said before, that I really wasn't very excited for this remake, the trailers made it look very low-effort and just being made to cash in on this 'live action' remake craze. Now, after having seen the film, my fears are mostly confirmed.

    First, the good (it's not all doom and gloom, just mostly doom and gloom) The animation was astounding. This is the most photo-realistic CGI I've ever seen, and just goes to show how far that technology has come in a relatively short amount of time. Also, while most of the performances weren't very impressive, I did enjoy Timon and Pumbaa, Seth Rogan was a great choice to play Pumbaa, and one of their scenes got the only genuine chuckle out of me.

    Unfortunately, that's about it. While the animation itself was amazing, the decision to make it as lifelike as possible was a real detriment to the film. None of the characters showed any sort of emotion, and coupled with flat line deliveries for the most part made it very difficult to connect with any of the characters and empathise with them. They had some really good acting talent involved in the film, but none of the actors seemed to be performing to their best.

    The music was also not a good as the original, despite Hans Zimmer working on this one well. Like everything else, it started off very flat, though it did improve somewhat towards the end of the film. The songs, for the most part, were okay though (I even found myself singing along with Hakuna Matata, but it is a physical impossibility not to sing along to Hakuna Matata when it comes on) That said, Can You Feel The Love Tonight seemed to be there more as a vehicle for Beyonce than anything to do with the film, that whole sequence had none of the emotion that the original had.

    Basically, the whole film just felt lifeless, despite looking so life like. This could have been a really good remake had the producers put a bit more effort into it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Aphelion View Post
    Basically, the whole film just felt lifeless, despite looking so life like.
    Yeap. Simple, hand drawn 2D animation achieved and delivered so much more all those years ago. Flashy CGI is good and all, but at the end of the day, to me it just isn't as memorable. This movie certainly wasn't. Photorealism isn't everything. But everyone wanted to see dem real lions and it was such a good cashgrab.

    I'm sorry for ranting. Part of me is still in denial about the remake. I've only grown to resent its existance as time passes. I saw something about a sequel somewhere recently, I wonder if that's true. I guess it wouldn't be surprising at all, Aladdin is getting a sequel afterall, so why not TLK.
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