I know this has probably already been asked before..

[Simba_2004]

*gives him 5 cents and starts to why a Lion would need money *

[unregistered user]

Cheapskate

[The_Real_King]

I have an idea Nuka, why don't you go into TLK reality and ask Nala herself who her father was? It would make this alot easyer.

[Invader MEL]

You know those questions going around, like, "Who's Nala's father", "What does Scar have to do with Zira", and all that. What do you think?

For the first, I think Scar is probably Nala's father, but I'm not sure about this one...

And for the second, I don't think Scar has anything to do with her. He probably amazed Zira by killing Mufasa, that's all. There's no proof anywhere that he fathered Nuka or Vitani. And of course he's not Kovu's father, as said in the movie.

Futher proof, when Nuka died, Zira asked Scar, "Scar, watch over my poor Nuka". Wouldn't she have said "our Nuka"?

O_o I'm confusing myself.

[Nalinda]

About the first one you wrote .. (About Nalas father)
I think that Nalas father is Scar.. Even if I dont want it to be like that! But does it matter? No, Nala has nothing to do with Scar except that Sarafina mated with Scar and Nala becamed their cub.
But im not really sure.. Mufasa was a very mighty king and it is possible that Sarafina mated with some other lion, not from the Pridelands..


About that thing with Zira and Scar.. I think that Scar and Zira was "kind" of friends. Zira must had admired him beacause otherwise she wouldnt talk so good about him!
But Im really not sure.. cuz..
I think that both the friendship with Zira and the possibility to be king is what drived Scar to stay at the Pride Rock. Otherwise.. I think he had left.. No male lion wants to be the second..
And I think that Zira must had been a very good friend with Scar,
because otherwise.. she wouldnt had gone that far..
To kill Simba :mad: to take back the Pridelands.. Not good thoughts.. thats really ?? bad. I think.
What do you think?! :Ooo:

[Invader MEL]

I actually agree. x3 They could have been extremely good friends. Or they could have mated but lost the cub they had together, and after Scar left, Zira mated with someone else, I don't know.

Of course, I have no idea about the first question.

[Nalinda]

Yeah.. thats possible.
One thing about the first one:
Do you think that it is possible that Mufasa is Nalas father?!
I know that it cant be like that but.. you really dont know?!
Cuz.. if Sarafina mated with Scar.. then Nala.. She would be more.. dark-hared?! She look very look-a-like Sarafina?! Well.. The thought about that Sarafina mated with Scar is still the most believable.. But..
Things can change

[Invader MEL]

The reason I don't think Mufasa is her father is because I never seen him treat her with love as much as Simba.

Oh, Sarafina must hate him now. x3

[Aurelian]

The question of who Nala's father is can not be answered. If we are looking at a real lion pride, onw pride can have as many as 3-4 adult males. To a limit, lions do recognize incest. A lion rarely mates with it's own siblings or cubs. Simba and Nala become mates, therefore they are not siblings, ruling out Mufasa. If the theory of Scar trying to seduce Nala during his reign is thrown in, then chances are that Scar is not Nala's father. No other adult lion, besides Mufasa and Scar are ever introduced, so it is most likely a two lion pride. There is always the posibility of an outside lion from another pride, or a rogue. There is no way to be certain. Finally, this is a Disney kids movie. Who knows how well they know how real lions work.

This is a deleted scene from SP that shows the relationship between Scar/Zira/Nuka/Kovu/Vitani, taken from lionking.org:

{Camera switches to the Outlands, slowly zooming in. The landscape is a barren desert, with strange rock formations everywhere. Rafiki's voice continues in narrative.}

But that is where Simba banished Scar's followers. Including his most loyal... Zira.

{An insect lands on the ground; immediately, Kovu appears, pouncing.}

KOVU: Rrrah!

{Kovu opens his paws to reveal the insect, buzzing; he smiles and opens his paws, releasing it to fly away.}

ZIRA: Kovu!

{Camera switches to Zira, who is supervising. She snatches the insect from the air and smashes it to the ground.}

Don't let it go. What's the matter with you?

KOVU: But Mother! He wasn't hurting anyone--

ZIRA: There is no room for weakness here, my son. Remember... Scar took you in and accepted you as his own son.

{Zira has moved close and pulled Kovu against her. Kovu seems doubtful.}

KOVU: But he wasn't my father.

ZIRA: No... but he chose you to become the next King. When you rule, we shall no longer be forced to live in these dry, barren, disgusting, pathetic, termite-infested Outlands!

{Zira is swatting at the ground, railing against fate. Kovu looks down, in quiet agreement. Suddenly, Nuka and Vitani come bounding in from off-screen, fighting to be the first back with the news.}

NUKA and VITANI: Mother! Mother! Mother!

{Nuka and Vitani are speaking over one another, trying to get the first word in.}

NUKA: We were there-- in the Pride Lands. We saw the whole thing!

VITANI: At Pride Rock. We saw everything!

NUKA and VITANI: We saw Simba's cub!

ZIRA: What? Vitani-- what did you see?

VITANI: Simba's new cub is a girl!

ZIRA: A girl! {laughs} Scar, my beloved... did you hear that? This couldn't be more perfect.

NUKA: Who's she talking to?

VITANI: Ssshhh. Scar.

NUKA: {gasps} Where? Where?

VITANI: Scar's dead... genius.

ZIRA: Yes! Because of Simba... if not for him, Scar would still be King. And I, Zira-- his loving, devoted Queen!

NUKA: You know, speaking of kings... I was thinking, since I am the oldest... maybe I should be King! Huh?

ZIRA: Uh? Don't be a fool, Nuka.

NUKA: Heh heh... just a thought.

{Nuka has rolled over subserviently on his back.}

ZIRA: Kovu is the chosen one. We must fulfill Scar's dying wish, and train Kovu to become King.

NUKA: Oh... yeah.... oh, yeah. I can do that!

{Zira climbs up on a rock point to gaze out over the land. The others follow.}

ZIRA: Look... at the Pride Lands, my pets. So green... so inviting. That is our home... that is where we belong. And soon, my beloved Scar... we shall reclaim your kingdom.

[unregistered user]

As Scar so wonderfully put it; "Truth is in the eye of the beholder"

we could all have our own perceptions of how and why things happened.

My own opinion is that Nuka, Vitani, and Kovu do not come from Scar.

And I think Nala was the daughter of Leo from one of those Disney books.

That is all ^^

[Aurelian]

Leo? Is that some Disney movie I never heard of?

[Sombolia]

I think Leo is a character from TLK6NA.. Not sure though, I haven't read them in a long time...

[Ashara]

Yep...Leo's in TLK6NA. He's the big burly one that picks on Kopa, I think.
But I think that a rogue is Nalas father.
And with Scar and Zira...I'm going with the deleted scene that Nuka and Vitani are Scars(Notice when Nuka says "Scar wasn't even his Father..." a little jealously is aroused...::hinthint:: ). Zira probably had Kovu with a chosen rogue by Scar.

[Aurelian]

And what is TLK6NA? LMAO, sorry. I am a bit out of date, I guess.

[va-kasi]

Not sure about who Nala's father is...

But for the second one, I don't believe Zira is Scar's mate at all.

I think she's merely a fan-girl. Its obvious she loves Scar ("and I, his loving devoted Queen") but I don't think Scar ever loved her

It's all in her head IMO.

And yeah, Invader MEL, you have a good point about Nuka not being Scar's son too. She only said "My"

[starlioness]

this is what I think about Nala's father.. ( don't ask why the bugs are there)




as for Scar and Zira. I'm wondering if they had the same relationship as Zira and Nuka.. Scar dissing her, while Zira was trying to win him over . maybe if she/Kovu killed Simba maybe Scar would finally accept her. or something like that.. I guess.

[Huma]

what a great art, did you make it?
it's the most lovely to see horrent fur on sarabi's back.

[King Simba]

Originally posted by Huma
what a great art, did you make it?
it's the most lovely to see horrent fur on sarabi's back.

The pic was by Tiiniuw.

[Snowy]

For Nala's father, I personally go with the rogue lion hypothesis (though, of course, I am more than willing to debate other possibilities ). Among real lions, rogues can and do sneak in and mate without the pride males knowing, and so cubs are erroneously thought to belong to those same pride males. I've also got my own melding of real lion behavior and TLK dynastic monarchies that not only allows for commoner lionesses to mate with rogues, but downright expects them to.

As for Scar and Zira's relationship, I'm of the mind that Scar pretty much just strung Zira along for his own purposes and didn't really give a hoot about her. Certainly no lovey-dovey soulmate stuff from him, no sir-ee-bob. She might have grown on him enough for a grudging quasi-affection to develop, but otherwise, I see the whole arrangement as being more politically motivated than emotionally. Zira, on the other hand, clearly loved and adored him, whatever her reason may be.

Futher proof, when Nuka died, Zira asked Scar, "Scar, watch over my poor Nuka". Wouldn't she have said "our Nuka"?

Not necessarily. First off, it'd be extraneous to the plot and would only serve to confuse the kiddies. Badly. Secondly, we don't know what Scar's relationship with Nuka was. He may have completely disowned him, in which case Zira claiming sole ownership of Nuka wouldn't be entirely unexpected or out of place.

And what is TLK6NA?

This is. More specifically, it's a bookset published by Grolier back in 1994 as part of a Disney book club in the States. Among other things, it is the source of the names Taka, Ahadi, Uru, and Kopa. If you're looking to own, try eBay as individual books and occasional whole sets show up every once in a while.

[unregistered user]

Snowy you're so smart, and you never get tired of repeating yourself. This topic and question has come up so often hehe. But you make sure that everyone knows ^^ eProps to you Snowy ^^