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    Originally posted by Pnt
    I have no problem with responsible hunting, I just ask that the person use what they kill.
    I agree

    The lion hunts to survive, hunting for sport is another thing. The lion leaves his food when he is done, occasionally some cats may attempt to hide their kill for later. The vulture survives by eating the carrion left behind. It's all part of the great circle of life

    Hunting for sport so you can have a deer on your wall(no offense should be taken, offense wa not meant to harm anyone, it is simply my opinion) is not what i'd call the same thing. It may help with the deer population, but one has to remember that it was the humans who intruded onto their habitat and took it away. It is to my understanding that the deer population would be in a well defined ratio with the amount of habitat if the amount of land was the same. However, what needs to be done is what needs to be done.

    A mountain lion, bobcat, or bear, rather any animal that does not reproduce at a steady rate, I do not approve of the hunting of it. Not because they're cute and fluffy, but because people tend to not use all of the animal. I personally have never heard of someone eating bobcat meat.

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    I know hunting is necessary for natural balance. However, my main concern with hunting is the sport aspect. Why would you want to kill something for fun? Why isn't it comparable, or worse, to other necessary tasks such as cleaning up roadkill? If a forest ranger was excited to see how hard a deer was hit by a car, people would think he was disturbed. Yet, usually hunters are excited to see how they killed an animal, and it's perfectly normal. Also, the food aspect is more of a luxury than a necessity. If you don't successfully kill a deer, you have the option of going to the supermarket for food, as opposed to having no other alternatives as you would centuries ago.

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    I believe if you kill an animal, you should eat it. People who like to hunt for game, I cannot say much for them... 'except to defile you. But I won't.

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    Originally posted by lion_roog

    Your night or my night?...

    well your night of course! Master ... ill take my french maid suit if ya want

    *goes on-topic again* .... tho i have already said everything i want

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    Now this thread is heading in a direction I can agree with. Being from deep Native American herritage, I can understand the need to hunt so we can feed ourselves, and in some cases, give ourselves warm clothing. I still remember when Whitewolf(Where the heck did he go) taught me about how peole who live where he does, in Northern Canada, rely on thick leather and some furs to survive in the sub-zero atmosphere up there. I actually own a pair of buckskin boots handed down through my family. they are awsome for shoveling snow. That is acceptable in my mind. However, when I see some rich celebrity like Madona or Paris Hilton wearing a fur coat, scarf, or Boa, THAT I can get angry about. They don't need these things, they just want to look fancy. In fact, I always get antsy when all the fur store ads start popping up around Christmas on the radio and TV.

    Even when hunting for food, I can not respect the act of saving trophies. What can't be, or isn't, used should be burried so the animal can rest in death. To show of the fact that one can cause death so proudly seems cold blooded to me.

    Another topic, in which I had a interesting debate with Pnt on, in taxidermy. This is somthing that appals me. Why somebody would want a stuffed dead body in their house is beyond me. And the thought of actually creating it makes me shutter.

    As an individual, I could not ever lay a hand on another living cerature, human or animal, unless it were in extreme self defence. If there was a lion charging at me angrily, and I found I have a gun in my hand, I could shoot the lion to save myself, but if it were a deer grazing peacefully nearby, and I planned on eating it, then no, I could never do it.
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    Just so there's no confusion, I don't have a problem with responsible sport hunting either. As I said before, if the hunter uses what they kill, I'm fine with that. If they take the meat and hang the head on their wall, I have no problem with that either. I define responsible hunting as hunting that doesn't pose significant risk to other human beings and does not seriously degrade the environment over time.

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    Originally posted by Roquivo

    As an individual, I could not ever lay a hand on another living cerature, human or animal, unless it were in extreme self defence.
    *chuckles*

    You just reminded me of this great commercial wherein a monk (Buddhist maybe?) uses a tissue that Kills 99.8% of bacteria. ^_^

    I'm not sure I understand the appeal of having a dead animal's head hanging on my wall either, and I REALLY don't understand those little old ladies who insist on having their pet cats stuffed when they die. But then again, I don't like dolls either...I think they're going to come alive and kill me in my sleep or something...beady little eyes...watching me...
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    Originally posted by Wicked
    *chuckles*

    You just reminded me of this great commercial wherein a monk (Buddhist maybe?) uses a tissue that Kills 99.8% of bacteria. ^_^

    O_o
    LMAO!!! I know that commersial. The monk puts the spider from the temple back on the bush, rescues the goldfish that accidently jumped out of the fountain, Let's a butterfly out a window, then blows his nose, and his face light up like he witnessed a miricle.

    It's funny you should mention it, Wicked, because the first time that I saw that commersial air, while I watching TV with my mother, I turned to her and said "Stange, I don't remember auditioing for that!"
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    Well, this will probably be my last post here. I just wanted to say that this board has driven me away because of all of the anti hunting. I could get by without talking about hunting, but when it becomes that people are getting mad whenever a thread about hunting starts, well that's a bit too much. I think I'll be moving on, there may be a forum out there where I could get away with talking about the Lion King and hunting, I mean, not all Lion King fans are necesarrily that crazy about hunting as this board is. With that I leave you now, perhaps we could have done things differently and I could have learned to accept these opinions, but this board is a little too harsh for my liking, any one thing can set the place off, I think it's best that I leave, I suppose I'll never understand how highly you people consider animals, to me, that is all they are, animals.


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    well yea, i have to admitt Lea can be too serious sometimes, even I can get annoyed at threads and posts like this that are everywhere and gets closed for like every little mistake you do ... what more, there was no rule about making a hunting thread or was it? I never had an answer ... But then i also guess everyone have their right to say their oppinion, but srsly, i didnt think this hunting thing was such a big deal Oo. Once again i dont have time to care very much about it, i see nothing wrong in hunting, its something everyone do, animals as well ... understand FF, id have left too in this case if i was in his position. What kind of welcome is this anyway Lea, whats the matter with ya all?! :vitgrr:

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    okay, thanks then

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    Originally posted by Forest Freak
    Well, this will probably be my last post here. I just wanted to say that this board has driven me away because of all of the anti hunting. I could get by without talking about hunting, but when it becomes that people are getting mad whenever a thread about hunting starts, well that's a bit too much. I think I'll be moving on, there may be a forum out there where I could get away with talking about the Lion King and hunting, I mean, not all Lion King fans are necesarrily that crazy about hunting as this board is. With that I leave you now, perhaps we could have done things differently and I could have learned to accept these opinions, but this board is a little too harsh for my liking, any one thing can set the place off, I think it's best that I leave, I suppose I'll never understand how highly you people consider animals, to me, that is all they are, animals.
    If your talking about what happened today, it had nothing to do with hunting. It had to do with a mod going out of her way to degrade a certain lifestyle and using lies to turn people against them.

    FF, you are entitled to your opinion, and should not be ran out of the forum for it.
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    what has that with the hunting to do? or this thread at all?

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    Originally posted by Forest Freak
    Well, this will probably be my last post here. I just wanted to say that this board has driven me away because of all of the anti hunting. I could get by without talking about hunting, but when it becomes that people are getting mad whenever a thread about hunting starts, well that's a bit too much. I think I'll be moving on, there may be a forum out there where I could get away with talking about the Lion King and hunting, I mean, not all Lion King fans are necesarrily that crazy about hunting as this board is. With that I leave you now, perhaps we could have done things differently and I could have learned to accept these opinions, but this board is a little too harsh for my liking, any one thing can set the place off, I think it's best that I leave, I suppose I'll never understand how highly you people consider animals, to me, that is all they are, animals.
    You shouldnt leave just because of some people dissagree with you

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    Originally posted by Ciara
    what has that with the hunting to do? or this thread at all?
    Nothing, which is why I shall bring the thread back on topic *Superhero pose*


    The one thing that really bugs me about hunting in this area is how irresponsible hunters can be. During their respective seasons, I'll see hunters closer than five feet from a road hunting with loaded guns. Granted, they're almost always pointing away from the highway, but I've always figured that a loaded gun being fired with 3-5 feet of a highway is always a bad idea. Likewise, it irks me to no end to see hunters hunting towards highways, even if they're 300 yards away, as many car/deer accidents in this area are the result of an irresponsible hunter spooking a deer into traffic. So yeah, responsible hunting I'm cool with, but I do think hunters need to stay away from traffic.

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    Originally posted by XxBlackXxParadeXx
    You shouldnt leave just because of some people dissagree with you
    well i would kinda have done so if i was a newbie, and had a start like this ...

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    Originally posted by Ciara
    well i would kinda have done so if i was a newbie, and had a start like this ...
    i know....not very friendly of lea was it?....oh well back to the topic at hand

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    Originally posted by Forest Freak
    Well, this will probably be my last post here. I just wanted to say that this board has driven me away because of all of the anti hunting. I could get by without talking about hunting, but when it becomes that people are getting mad whenever a thread about hunting starts, well that's a bit too much. I think I'll be moving on, there may be a forum out there where I could get away with talking about the Lion King and hunting, I mean, not all Lion King fans are necesarrily that crazy about hunting as this board is. With that I leave you now, perhaps we could have done things differently and I could have learned to accept these opinions, but this board is a little too harsh for my liking, any one thing can set the place off, I think it's best that I leave, I suppose I'll never understand how highly you people consider animals, to me, that is all they are, animals.
    This person, has been here for a Week, and knows EXACTLY, what happens on Lea, Every, Single, Time, Something, Happens, on this BOARDS.

    Does that NOT show something? But really anyways.

    Not trying to point you out bud, But you just said you couldn't lay your hand on another animal, if it was in self defence.

    What happens if hunters are hunting, Bears come out, To save themselves they shoot it.. Does that make what they did wrong?

    Also, To what Roq stated about a Mod.

    It was not lies, What she stated was merely the "Bad side" of most Furs, Not putting anything Good made it seem that furries WERE bad, And most of the time that's the way they are seen, However she stated the Minority WERE bad,

    I wish people could read.

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    Originally posted by XxBlackXxParadeXx
    i know....not very friendly of lea was it?....oh well back to the topic at hand
    ... sounded like something else before, but ok

    edit: KTL also has a point on the view of lea nowadays ... <.<

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    Originally posted by SimbaTheLion
    Which is it to be? Anyway, I've never met a fur as extreme as was described, and I've met over a thousand furs in my time.
    Well, that's where you and I differ, because I can honestly say I have. I didn't really put any 'bad' example either, I just said things like sexually idolising animals.

    Also, good job on your "unbiased" proof. A furcon site. Very unbiased indeed.

    Originally posted by SimbaTheLion
    Simply, a lot of humans have a sickening superiority complex over other species. [/B]
    You know what, a lot of animals have a superiority complex over other species. I don't know why you're singling humans alone out for this trait.

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