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Thread: Hunting? The Big Problem

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    Originally posted by A-non-a-mus
    How many time have I got to say this: I've DONE that ALREADY. I'm still alive too.
    Pics or it never happened!

    Actually, that's really cool. How long were you out for?

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    Originally posted by SimbaTheLion
    You can't discriminate against something for something it hasn't done.
    And you can't assume that it wouldn't act like that.

    Your superiority complex is really blazing: if Anon says he's done something, then take his word for it. Don't keep putting him down about it and shrugging him off.

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    Originally posted by SimbaTheLion
    Superiority complex haha XD , that's rich considering I have no self esteem...
    That's how it comes across. You keep demanding things, and once Anon says he's actually done them, you pretty much say "Nope, probably not true, and not good enough anyway."

    *shrugs*

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    Talking about the whole "I doubt you could live in the wild for a reasonable amount of time with nothing but your bare hands and whatever you made yourself whilst you were there." thing isnt there somthing in the news about a woman who lived in the jungle for 16 years or something, oh yeah and arnt there loads of cases of ferals

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    Originally posted by SimbaTheLion
    Well there's no proof that it would act in a bad way
    Nor is there proof it would act in a good way.

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    This thread has truly gone mad when we are talking about if a lion would brag or not if it could.

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    Meh in the end we all have our opinions and we can argue and argue but you cant really change peoples opinions

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    The point of this thread would be that we all have our own opinions, and there's no point in trying to change other's. As is, we'll just have to try to live with others having different opinions.

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    Originally posted by SimbaTheLion
    XxBlack: She must have been some sort of specialist, and I doubt it was particularly dangerous there.
    She wasn't a specialist...she was apparently only 8 years old when she disappeared.
    For those interested...
    Wild Jungle Girl Found in Cambodia

    I won't pretend to know how dangerous the jungle is there, as I've never been, but I still think it's pretty impressive that she managed to stay alive...'specially considering the talks of cholera and typhoid outbreaks in that region...being in the jungle probably helped her in that aspect though. ^_^

    Eh, as I always say, never underestimate the human ability to adapt...or to be incredibly stubborn. It's a life skill.

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    I hate hunters that are unsportsmanlike. Ex: THe jerks that go out and kill something and leave it- or the ones that put 70 bullets in the animal for kicks!

    I am a hunter- I butcherer and eat what I kill. And only kill what I like to eat- or know someone that likes it. I hate rabbit but my dad loves it! So I bagged one for him. I NEVER kill something and leave it, that's just... wrong. At least in my opinion.
    I have been raised on guns and respect them, I understand them.
    well I said mine so I guess I'm going *waves and pads off*

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    Originally posted by SimbaTheLion
    DarkElf: As I said in one of my previous posts - Innocent until proven guilty.
    That's a logical fallacy. Just because it's a concept of judicial law does not mean it can be applied to everything.

    Logically, the argument "If not A, than B" does not make sense. Lack of proof, or even outright disproof for one thing does not equal proof for its opposite.

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    Originally posted by SimbaTheLion
    You can turn the argument the other way around; "if not B, then A". However, you can state that "iff (if and only if) event X occurs, then event Y can occur as a consequence."

    In this case, event X would be the event of a lion bragging, and event Y would be the event of the lion being discriminated against because it was bragging.

    If event X does not happen, there is no reason for event Y to happen.
    You gotta be joking. This doesn't even have anything to do with hunting, this has turned into another "humans suck, animals rule" thread.

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    Originally posted by Nephilim
    Pics or it never happened!

    Actually, that's really cool. How long were you out for?
    I don't have pics from that one.. but do have pics from other times here here and here all are just deer though (I did get closer, but didn't want to spook them with the camera noise...)

    Thanks, I was gone for three months.

    Originally posted by SimbaTheLion
    And, I bet it wasn't a dangerous area of the wild that posed a significant threat ...
    yes, because we all know there's no such thing as mountain lions, and the only black bears there are are the plush versions ... I went to the kiddie forest where raccoons and squirrels dance and sing...

    I went out into the mountains... out into the region with no houses... it was out in the wild, it wasn't any 'resort'... there is quite a number of other predators there.

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    It's not just animals you need to worry about when out in the wild...actually, the elements are probably your biggest threat.

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    Originally posted by SimbaTheLion
    Heh, you most likely didn't do it with no tools, or anything like that.
    I most likely DID, because I DID... I know I DID because I was the person who DID ...
    you can speak of your own achievements but don't you tell others what they did or didn't do. Perhaps because you, yourself haven't done. May as well try to prove to the world no one could catch a live crocodile with their hands. (and yes I am hinting to Steve Irwin that you brought up)

    On the point of other experts... tell me how often it is and how many dies, and then compare it to how many, and how often one didn't. You'll be guaranteed to find the number of surviving ones much greater than the deaths.

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    Originally posted by SimbaTheLion
    Heh, you most likely didn't do it with no tools, or anything like that. And, that's not dangerous compared to being in an African wilderness or something similar, with tons of deadly snakes, lions, hippos, leopards, hyenas, elephants, e.t.c...

    There have been many people who claimed to be "wildlife experts" and so on who get killed by dangerous animals, or by trying to be too clever. Steve Irwin as an example, poor guy.
    Not to sound mean, but no matter what he does, it won't be good enough for you, will it? He could probably wrestle a moose to the ground with his bare hands and you'd find some way to down play it. And why does it matter if he used no tools? Tools are a vital part of any human being's survival, we evolved that way. That's like stripping a deer of its speed or a lion of its teeth. All the while, this has absolutely nothing to do with hunting.

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    Originally posted by SimbaTheLion
    There have been many people who claimed to be "wildlife experts" and so on who get killed by dangerous animals, or by trying to be too clever. Steve Irwin as an example, poor guy.
    Yes, because stingrays are VERY dangerous animals. It was such a freak accident, there's nothing he could've done. Off topic, but whatever.

    But on the subject of hunting, I find it funny how animal's "nobility" comes into effect. If somebody killed just one tiger or lion, they would be frowned upon, but if they killed several deer not many people would care.

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    Originally posted by SimbaTheLion
    No, in the wild you're supposed to do everything yourself. No tools, that's cheating ! It's like me going into a non-calculator maths exam with a calculator just because "[humans] evolved that way".
    :E Hmm that would mean that the african tribes are cheating, the groups of people in the Amazone are cheating, heck that means even chimps are cheating Oo; They all use tools crafted from nature itself; stones, branches, animal bones ect. without it they would die out :E I certinly don't see that as cheating if it can prolong the survival of your clan. So if i used a stone as a hammer or knife, would I be cheating then? Oo Just an input xP I'll get out of this thread now xD

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    Very good accussation and argument Avalon !

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    But what does stop you from using natural resources, such as rocks and bamboo for spears, Thus would you still not have an advantage such as tribal people did long ago?

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