Moderator Approval Ratings...

[starionwolf]

When I saw the word ratings I thought about Y, G, PG, PG-13. lol

Leah has moderators? Where? I hardly notice them because the act like typical Lion King fans. lol They do their job seriously.

I like the way they moderate the forum.

Who are the moderators? I'll go look for the list. The only person I know is Mufasa.

[lion_roog]

Originally posted by Vidan

Lately I seem to be going for the more behind-the-scenes approach, but I'm always watching, and listening.

So it is you who is the CIA of Lea.....I like having friends in high places...

Maybe more Mods should be made because there will be times when a mod or a couple mods may not be able to check in on Lea and all...via computer problems, school, et cetra...I mean, life happens and you have to deal with it. With more Mods we will make sure to always have enough.

I haven't really seen any malicious modding from any Moderator. You guys are doing a good job in my opinion.

[Ngatuny]

This thread has been brought to my attention, and I had been thinking of resigning my position as a mod since life has gotten a bit hectic lately but my dedication to Lea will not go away or will I be offended if I'm taken off the mod team.

I want to thank Mufasa for trusting in me when the first mods were appointed and I'm happy to have served this great community. I also agree with pntbll248 that mod duties should be carried independently from personal feelings and animosities with other members.

I hope I can return to my regular everyday or almost everyday presence here at Lea. I leave the decision of whether or not I should remain a mod to the members here.

I hope that I haven't offended anyone here, and if I have I sincerely apologize.

[Prince Simba]

I must say that at times, I have been rather upset with the moderation team (or lack thereof). I believe that it is important for all of the moderators to be active and fair.

First off, I think that for a long time there has been a serious lack of order, which the moderators could help sort out. And I'm not saying that everything needs to be perfect or anything and problems with spam and such seem to be much better than back when I was active more often.

I'd like to point out the following:
Many of the moderators are inactive or just aren't active enough.
Some moderators have made biased rulings in the past.
A few moderators have been appointed because of popularity instead of qualifications.

I highly suggest removing the moderators who aren't very active and have them replaced with more active members.

Also, to whoever chooses new moderators, the determining factor should really just be qualifications. It doesn't matter when the member joined, just that they know what's going on and can do their job.

I think that our forum administrators (namely Mufasa and Sarabi) might want to come around here and maybe post once in awhile, to show that they still have an interest in their forum.

I don't have any more to say that can be said here.

Cheers.

[Aurelian]

Well, seems like the biggest thing brought up here is inactive mods. Ngatny has spoken, and I believe Nuka is trying to reach STM. I fully expect STM to resign willingly as he was very unhappy last I seen him.

The question is what to do about Sharifu, Fuzzy, and Ghalati.

Sharifu was here earlier, and does manage to check in once or twice a week. She is semi-active due to loss of internet on her computer.

Fuzzy is still trying to work out his living position, and may not be back regularly for awhile. He does check in once every other week or so for small bits of time.

Ghalati is out indefinatly dealing with severe family problems. As bad as I feel to say it, I do not expect him back anytime soon, if at all.

Chosing new mods will come layter, when we can come up with a peaceful and non-hurtful way of doing so.

PS, I am not entirely sure what you mean by "order". Do you mean forum organization? That is somthing alwasy being worked on. That was one of the main reason the Mirage was created. We can't have 100 different forums, but we are always open to ideas. I noticed This Land's TLKoB forum idea. While we don't really have room for a forum for every aspect of TLK, maybe Circle of Life could be seperated into two forums, one for the actuall animated film, and one for other TLK stuff such as TLKoB, books, sightings, music, ect.

[Simbaspirit]

sounds good to me.

[Prince Simba]

Roquivo, I was referring to a more general selection of things including off-topic posts, inappropriate topics, etc.

And, just in case the question is raised, there is really no way anybody can expect the mods to catch everything.

[lion_roog]

Sharifu will be on more often once her Dad gets back from Florida, plus I think STM is with her. Her dad took the laptop with Internet access, so she has to use the school computers...problem with that was she has been on winter break for the last two weeks.

And I think the Lea's most popular sub forum needs to be divide and made organized...and that's Scar's Lair...

[Simba '04]

Originally posted by Prince Simba
I'd like to point out the following:
Many of the moderators are inactive or just aren't active enough.
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A few moderators have been appointed because of popularity instead of qualifications.
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I think that our forum administrators (namely Mufasa and Sarabi) might want to come around here and maybe post once in awhile, to show that they still have an interest in their forum...

*sigh* I've finally decided to post in this topic thread. PS, listen dude, Mufasa and Sarabi are still interested in this forum but you have to realize that they are adults living on their own working full time jobs. Did you know that Mufasa has been pulling in 60 hour weeks? What time does he have to come to this forum eh? Be thankful that he is providing a forum for the TLK community to be united. I was not appointed a moderator because of my popularity, if it had been based completely on popularity when the first moderators were chosen, I would have definitely not been one of them. I requested to be a moderator a long time ago, but Mufasa wasn't interested at the time. As time went on I started helping Mufasa moderate the forum by sending him pm's of what was going on and things that I had noticed that were breaking the rules or just wrong. Finally when the forum started getting really big he requested several members to become moderators and I was one of the ones that he had chosen and I beleive it was not on popularity for my part, but because I had helped him out so much. I try my best to be as active as I can be as a moderator. As Roquivo mentioned one of the mod's preffered to point things out instead of taking direct action, that would be me. If I see something that isn't right I will post it in one of the admin. topics. If I receive a pm or a reported post, I always take action asap. I don't have the time to read over every single post here but I do take immediate action when I'm alerted. Lea is not the first forum that I have been a moderator for, nor do I expect it to be the last. I've been a moderator for a forum that has more members there then we have total posts here, so I have some expierence with what to do in most scenarios here. Just kind of funny that no one ever complained about the moderating staff there. As Woes of Folly said, he hasn't been receiving any pm's about any problems with the staff, nor have I. I'm not very impressed with the way everyone is tearing down the mod. staff here. I beleive it is an act of jealousy, but hey, thats just me. Yes I agree that all of the mod's can find some room for improvement, but you have to realize that these people don't live on the internet, we all have our own lives to live and can't let our lives be controlled by a forum. I can't thank Mufasa enough for him allowing me to be a moderator and I've tried my best to not let him down in his decision. I've always enjoyed being a moderator at other forums and so when I had the chance here, of course I jumped right on it. I haven't made the smartest decisions here and I've made some of the staff upset by accident, buy hey...I'm not perfect, I can't walk on water and neither can anyone else here. I beleive that it is time that we do have a moderator review to see who is going to go and who is going to stay. I do beleive that STM, aeRo, and LKD do need to go, great friends of mine that I will never forget, but being a moderator is a serious duty and can not be toyed around with. If someone is going to be a moderator at a forum, then they should be quite active. I've requested that Mufasa remove my moderator powers because I wasn't very active at one time, but he still allowed for me to be a mod. and thus why I'm trying to be more active. I have seen the staff here preform very quickly on several instances and I'm quite satisified with the staff here, some do need to be more active and some gotta go, but for the most part we have a great team and really don't see the need for any more moderators at this time, especially with Nathalie being a super mod. she has done a wonderful job so far and I'm now glad she was chosen to be a super moderator. I've been watching all of the moderators here and I could point out names and tell you what they are doing, but I do not beleive that would be appropriate for this thread and really I have no room to talk considering I'm far from being the best moderator here, heh.

I did not make this post to point the finger at anyone or to make anyone upset. If you are offended by what I have said, then you do not know who I am nor do you know my standards. I do request that everyone take a deep breath before making another post in this thread. Realize that you are talking to other real people that are just like you, TLK fanatics, I mean why else would you be here? If you want to make a flame war or harass other members, then I ask that you leave and you have no business here.
Utora, the moderators here do I have feelings, especially me. Are you really going to leave a forum that you see needs help? Did you really mean what you said in that e-mail? Sorry for talking to you this way but if you are going to make a post making a threat at me as a moderator then I do beleive it is fair that I state my opinion in front of everyone as well. I will no threaten you back, as a Christian we should never make an attack toward someone else. We should be Christ like in our lives and be willing to forgive as Christ has forgiven. Utora, if you are offended, then you should let the person that offended you know that they have offended you and then forgive them.

Matthew 18:15-22
15 ? Moreover if thy brother shall trespass against thee, go and tell him his fault between thee and him alone: if he shall hear thee, thou hast gained thy brother.
16 But if he will not hear thee, then take with thee one or two more, that in the mouth of two or three witnesses every word may be established.
17 And if he shall neglect to hear them, tell it unto the church: but if he neglect to hear the church, let him be unto thee as an heathen man and a publican.
18 Verily I say unto you, Whatsoever ye shall bind on earth shall be bound in heaven: and whatsoever ye shall loose on earth shall be loosed in heaven.
19 Again I say unto you, That if two of you shall agree on earth as touching any thing that they shall ask, it shall be done for them of my Father which is in heaven.
20 For where two or three are gathered together in my name, there am I in the midst of them.
21 ? Then came Peter to him, and said, Lord, how oft shall my brother sin against me, and I forgive him? till seven times?
22 Jesus saith unto him, I say not unto thee, Until seven times: but, Until seventy times seven.

[unregistered user]

Let's see... There's full-time mods, full-time members / part-time mods, part-time members, and all that pizazz.

All the mods, whether they're here partially or fully can do an equal job nonetheless...

They've done an excellent job, whether they have done a little or a lot. Some may think of us as being biased, self-elected, and maybe even minuscule in some decisions. Are we really that bad?

The truth is we're doing our best, as aforementioned. Perhaps we're doing too much of our best or not, I dunno (overexertion ?).

But it's good to get feedback (good and bad), because it helps us to better understand the situation at best.

"A good mod is a person who is responsible, not afraid to take action when needed, doesn't think themselves higher than anyone else in the forum, but also doesn't abuse the priviledge they've been offered." - Ravoc *iFrames*

Let's all try and lead by good example. Follow in the footsteps of good Disciples.

I still think we could use a few more moderators. But you don't have to be a moderator to help each other out when it comes to hierarchal paneling.

You know we may not be as tightly fit as we should be, but we're doing better than most.

All comments are appreciated, you-all . . . = )

[Prince Simba]

'04, I'm not going to try to quote that extremely long post.

I'd first like to mention that most of the things I mentioned only have to do with a small number of mods in a few past scenarios; none of which involve you. You've done a great job.

Also, I'd like to say that I was a little harsh when I mentioned Mufasa and Sarabi. I realize they both have jobs, but surely there is an hour or half an hour of free time somewhere. I don't know.

Last thing: I am in no way jealous of the mod. staff. Were I offered a position, I would probably turn it down. Mainly due to the restraints of time upon my life, but also because I'm not very nice. I say what I think, and I seem to do that more often when I think badly of something.

So, in order to apologize, I guess. I'd like to mention some of the things this mod. team has done right.

- You guys are quick to respond to reported posts
- All of the mods are friendly
- Most of the time you include the community on your decisions (like voting and stuff)
- Nobody is too strict, which makes life easier

So, sorry to anybody I might've offended. I respect you guys a lot (and not just because you're moderators).

Cheers.

[Simbaspirit]

nice of you to apologize, PS

[2 Die FR]

In my experience I haven't had any problems with the moderators or the way the forum is being handled in general. I've watched threads get closed for justifiable reasons, I've gotten reminded more than once by Nathalie that my banner size is too big (and of course I fixed that right away), and I know that there are lots of things that I don't see that are going on, and that's a good thing, since in the smoothest forums the presence of the moderators shouldn't be all that noticeable. I've watched the forum go through phases where randomness was a problem (during which I decided to stay away from Lea), and since then that seems to have been figured out, whether of its own accord or by the moderator's guidance, I'm not sure, but I bet the mods had a lot to do with it.

I don't have a problem with Mufasa and Sarabi being gone for lengths of time because I know they have a life outside of the Internet and, as aforely mentioned, the remaining mods have things very well under control, IMO. And if there are some inactives, like Ngatuny, well you can take away their mod privileges if that makes you feel better, but really there isn't much difference between them being an inactive mod and them not being one at all, is there? That would be a problem if there were a shortage of mods, but it doesn't look like we'll be having that problem any time soon.

I voted four stars. Good job mods.

[nathalie]

Why Sharifu isn't here, problems with her PC, internet connections ... She told us that in a thread, that she couldn't be on much in the past month.

Why isn't STM here ... Because he loves Sharifu to death, and for that, he works around the clock to get to her + he also goes to school aswell.
And right now, he is with her in the US.

*EDIT*
Someone asked who the mods are ...
Check out the link on the main page, bottom right
"forum leaders"

Or, some mods have that sig in their signature.

[unregistered user]

Indeed, mods do have real life in real world . STM and Sharifu is in Cali right now they in a Vacation.

[Aurelian]

Originally posted by nathalie
Why isn't STM here ... Because he loves Sharifu to death, and for that, he works around the clock to get to her + he also goes to school aswell.
And right now, he is with her in the US.

Originally posted by SimbaTheMighty
ok guys I am takeing another break, even I haven't been too active before either.ike quite a few knows I will be going to CA from December 14th to 5th january but that is not the only reason I am takeing a break. Sinse all the old threads got deleted ( older then 450 days ) I wasn't feeling sad about it at first, but now I do. I just memories all those moments when there wasn't too much randomness on this board and when everyone knew each other, and had no popularity contests. anyways after spring 2004 spam and randomness has just increasing which is one of the reason I don't come on too often. I hate finding randomness and threads that make no sense at all like 95% of time I browse this forum, so I don't think it was good idea to delete all the history of Lea, especially I don't think you Sonique should have done it sinse you kind of deleted all the threads before you joined, but no hard feelings from that you did.anyways I gonna be also busy, but also I know I can find better use for my time then come online and read randomness which make no sense at all. You all can still get hold of me on MSN or Yahoo messenger if you need to and I do come here if there is a problem going on.
I am not blameing anyone for that what this forum have turn into and sinse last time it was about to break in a part when we started to try to change it so I don't start doing it. Just gonna take a bit over a month break and leave it there. And I prmise to be back sometime, I have made a promise for couple of people on lea that I will never leave this forum and I am not going to break that promise unless something really serious happens... but I will be gone for now on...

Sorry, Nathalie, but I can't let that one slide. We start making excuses and walking around the truth, and nothing gets done. Hey, I spoke to STM a few times, and I know he is a cool guy, but he openluy walked out on us, and not all had to do with moving.

[nathalie]

Forgive me for forgetting a post that has been made a while ago ...

But still, the thing I said, was a reason why he was off-line a lot before he even thought of actually leaving.

[Dare]

Wow, things have changed since the last time we voted on this, hasn't it?

All things considered, the staff is still tolerable (at least to me). Like others have said before, there's always room for improvement and good moderators will recognize that?hubristic mods are unhealthy for a forum.

• There are times when I have not liked how certain things were handled. I made my opinion known but could never tell if I was listened to, ignored, and sometimes words have even been put into my mouth and I've been chastised and the subject dropped before even being given an opportunity to explain what I really meant...so I stopped trying to communicate.
  I especially didn't appreciate a few select times when I saw moderators say (not in the exact words but it was the gist that I got from what they did say) "sit down and shut up" or ?if you don?t like it, get lost? to both myself and some other forumers when we voiced disagreement with the way certain things were done.
• There are times when I thought that the left hand doesn't know what the right hand is doing and it makes me wonder about how good communication is amongst the staff.

Those are my problems, the former being the more grating issue.
Of course everyone is subject to poor judgment, mistakes and being emotional from time to time...I just wish such things were handled better by some staff.
As for the communication issue?it could just be a misread on my part, but I don?t know?if it appears that the moderators don?t know what each other is doing, it doesn?t inspire much confidence.
*shrugs*

Overall, I think things here are ?ok?, for the time being. Not great, not horrible, but ?ok?.

Oh yes, and for the record, contrary to what '04 believes, the day I'm jealous of a mod here is the day Hell freezes over, the government stops with the taxes, and I dance around in a ruffled pink tutu. In other words, it ain't gonna happen.

[lion_roog]

Originally posted by Wicked


Oh yes, and for the record, contrary to what '04 believes, the day I'm jealous of a mod here is the day Hell freezes over, the government stops with the taxes, and I dance around in a ruffled pink tutu. In other words, it ain't gonna happen.
[/B]

Yeah, but we can still hope...

[Suki]

I'd say good.

I'm sorry Roq, but you are doing good with your new postion as a mod, but you seem to be a little....how can I put this...too defensive.

I still do not get how that one icon I put in my sig (I'm not going to give the link, cuz it'll probably be deleted), that Raven/Robin...thing(I have nothing against those shippers,it is meant as a joke *the icon*), is against the rules for 'innopropriate language and suggestive content' while you see Dan saying 'buggernuts' and 'cock' all the time and Roog has on his gender 'Male...wanna check?'. That is just....odd.(no offense you two, BTW)

EDIT:
Now, I haven't read the rules in a while, so you're surely going to shoot me for this.