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    Originally posted by Roquivo
    Well, if you guys were attempting to destroy the mod staff, you did a heck of a job. As you know, Nathalie is taking a break, luckily for her own needs. Another active mod, whom I will allow to name themselves when they are ready, has handed in their resignation becaus eof stress from the forum. I can't speak for all the mods, but seeing these past few posts in this forum is just making me want to scream and put my fist through a wall. You are going to hear some stuff you would never expect me to say.

    Quite frankly, I am saddened to see how this forum reacted to this thread in the first place. I we got is "I hate this", and "the mods are bad because of that", but is anybody willing to offer suggestions to help? Nope. And what about how we get taken advantage of? You expect us to fix every little problem that happens, half the time with stuff outside of Lea, but when the problem involves you in even a small margain, you give us a scream-fest. Please, people, GROW UP! We are NOT your babysitters. Take responcibility for your own problems if that if you can.

    You know, it seems that instead of helping us to better ourselved for the sake of the forum, you seem to want to take us down as a whole. Tell me, where would this forum be without a mod staff? I can easily show you.

    Gametalk

    This is a forum I used to be a part of awhile back. There is no regestering system, and there are about 1000 regs for each member of the mod staff. The webmaster wastes all his time building toys for himself. Comparing Lea to that place is like comparing a desert island to New York City or London. I dare ANY of you to spend a day if one of those forums, and then come tell me that Lea has a poor mad staff. Do we make mistakes? Yes, but we are onlu human. Instead of bashing us for everything that goes wrong, and ignoring all the positive, why not work with us instead of against us.


    And mods, we NEED to get on the same page here. I am seeing severel different versions of the rules, and am very confused about it. How the time, I don't even know what is right and wrong anymore. We need to get the ruiles straight beofre we start getting on the forum for breaking them. Also, some organization of our leaders is needed. We need figure out stays and who goes, and such. I don't recall who said, but we reaaly aren't making enough comunications among ourselves here.

    Yes, I know a lot of that didn't makle sence, but it came from the heart from someone beyond frustration begging for his sanity.


    Now, that seemed just like a post I remember a bit earlier in this thread that was accusing the entire moderating staff of being responsible for members leaving. I just wanted to point out that the staff got angry from that post, so as a member who's actively posting in this thread, I feel I'm entitled to get angry at this post. However, I won't and I'm not because that would be counter-productive. I did give advice on how to improve (which, coincidently you were just about the only one to even acknowledge that post ).


    Moving on...

    As for the moderating staff... well, I think that if they're going to ask our opinion, they'd best be ready to get it in blunt truth. Don't ask if you don't want to hear it. If I'm responsible for anyone feeling down, either mentally or physically, then I don't really have any intent of apologizing, since I don't believe in apologizing unless you've done something wrong. But, I also think that this thread has escalated past what it needs to, I really don't think anything's going to get solved if we don't all calm down a tad. I mean, come on guys, it's an internet forum, not the UN; we can go about this a bit more calmly with the comforting knowledge that, even if lea were to not exist tomorrow, it would not have a major impact on the rest of our lives (at least, I hope and pray that's true).

    If someone's getting stressed out or too angry right now, maybe they should take a deep breath, turn the computer off, and come back tomorrow when they've cooled off. Heck, maybe they could go rent a movie and hang out with some friends or something. This thread will still be here tomorrow and no complete 180 is going to be made on the forum overnight, don't worry. Hakuna Matata, guys.



    As for swearing, I think that an acceptable amount should be... acceptable... I mean, if we want to go on a mass genocide against foul language, then count me out, because I really do think there's bigger fish to fry. Needless to say, the moment the mods start cracking down on cursing even more, there's going to be just as many people complaining that the mods are being too mean. Likewise, using laws and movie ratings to decide what's acceptable on an internet forum is a bit sad. Plus, what is considered cursing varies from person to person, as does the meaning of those words. I use quite a bit of the lower "cuss words" when I'm saying something I believe strongly in, I consider them sentence enhancers. That, and I think that words only have the meaning that they're given.

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    As Simba said, Moderators here are really getting annoyed bye spam and other things try looking at RuneScape and its forums, I think about 100,000 Threads are created a day with over 1 million Posts a day, And having to go through and look for spam / ranting badly or stuff can get annoying. And you think you've got it bad :| (No offense to mods just stating)

    Roquivo, I harassed the mods and made them feel down, Upsetting many members and I did ask for forgiveness, and if you choose to not forgive me, then Its not my problem its the others. I gave my views on moderators CLEARLY so I think I have done my job in this thread. I really don't know what else there is to DO here anymore (In my part) So I think I'm just going to leave out and let you others decide what to do, And besides, I'm just a member. My opinion doesnt matter when it comes to an Admin/Moderator vote or change of forums :P So I'm out of this one for the time being, Glad to have gave some opinions, and glad I could have got some stuff back at me for what I thought was wrong but was actually something good and my story was wrong, So thanks Vidan

    And also to the Moderators that are being aggrivated, If this is to much for a task for you to do this stuff, Step Down And you know what I mean when I say "Step down".

    And now, I rest my case. Moderators, Just sit back, Chill and just.. Calm down, (Roquivo mostly xX) Most of the members here CAN'T take matters into there own hands, Why you ask? Because they will probably be called a "wanna be moderator" or something, Or if they try to say "Close a thread or something" They can't and will just say "your opinion doesnt matter, its the benefit of the forums that matters" Or something along those lines.. So its really up to you Moderators to do the action. All we members can do, Is show you whats going on

    And that would be a good thing to if Members would point out problems to Moderators/Admins this place would be a better place to go to And it would be.. More relaxed I guess *shrugs and walks out*

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    Imapologize for snapping. This was in no way directed at you, KTL. It was directed to Lea as a whole. This whole thing is tough for me. Of the three active mods remaining in this thread, I have the least experience, and am still rough around the edges. After seeing both Nuka and Nathalie walk out the door, I just kind of panicked. I was never ready to have such a load thrown on me after only a bit more then a month on staff. No, I am not leaving. I would feel rotten for abandoning Lea in it's time of need. We are short staffed as it is.

    I'm going to stay away from this thread for a bit.
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    Originally posted by Kovu The Lion
    As Simba said, Moderators here are really getting annoyed bye spam and other things try looking at RuneScape and its forums, I think about 100,000 Threads are created a day with over 1 million Posts a day, And having to go through and look for spam / ranting badly or stuff can get annoying. And you think you've got it bad :| (No offense to mods just stating)
    You can't really tell us to do that, because big forums have more threads, therefore each moderator has on average the same amount to do.

    And also to the Moderators that are being aggrivated, If this is to much for a task for you to do this stuff, Step Down And you know what I mean when I say "Step down".
    Kind of harsh. It's not our fault if people spam the Hell out of the forum. People should behave on a free service- the responsibility should not fall purely on us. You should be able to control your own actions.

    And that would be a good thing to if Members would point out problems to Moderators/Admins this place would be a better place to go to And it would be.. More relaxed I guess *shrugs and walks out*
    We have a mod only forum. We are organised, you know.

    Also, I have to wonder... why isn't this forum 13+? =/

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    Originally posted by Nephilim
    Kind of harsh. It's not our fault if people spam the Hell out of the forum. People should behave on a free service- the responsibility should not fall purely on us. You should be able to control your own actions.

    Also, I have to wonder... why isn't this forum 13+? =/
    It may be harsh Neph, But its the truth and you know it is also. If you know that you won't be able to withstand these conditions then why join up to be a moderator yourself? So you can see a forums others can't? Or is it because you want your name in bold so people recoginze you? Or maybe that you want to be able to have certain things others don't.

    Or is it that you feel its your job?

    But if you can't handle it, Seriously don't accept the offer to Modship.

    Why isn't it 13+? Maybe this is why

    Was The Lion King Movie meant for 13 + audiences? Nope.. So that might be why

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    Originally posted by Kovu The Lion
    It may be harsh Neph, But its the truth and you know it is also. If you know that you won't be able to withstand these conditions then why join up to be a moderator yourself? So you can see a forums others can't? Or is it because you want your name in bold so people recoginze you? Or maybe that you want to be able to have certain things others don't.

    Or is it that you feel its your job?

    But if you can't handle it, Seriously don't accept the offer to Modship.

    Why isn't it 13+? Maybe this is why

    Was The Lion King Movie meant for 13 + audiences? Nope.. So that might be why
    Excuse me? How bloody disrespectful can you get? All I said was that people should be responsible for their own actions, and that it is not purely up to me to control your minds. I can deal with it fine, thank you very much.

    Yes. I have been at this forum for way over two years- I definitely need my name in bold font to be recognised. And the mod forum is so bleedin' interested I just happened to be offered the job without even requesting it. Oh noes.

    The movie isn't made for over 13 year olds? Then why are you here? Why am I here? Why are most people here? It's not about the film, it's about ToS of internet forums.

    Blah.

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    Originally posted by Nephilim
    Excuse me? How bloody disrespectful can you get? All I said was that people should be responsible for their own actions, and that it is not purely up to me to control your minds. I can deal with it fine, thank you very much.

    Yes. I have been at this forum for way over two years- I definitely need my name in bold font to be recognised. And the mod forum is so bleedin' interested I just happened to be offered the job without even requesting it. Oh noes.

    The movie isn't made for over 13 year olds? Then why are you here? Why am I here? Why are most people here? It's not about the film, it's about ToS of internet forums.

    Blah.
    I don't find myself at all being "dissrespectful" I never said anything was directed to you except that first sentance I made "and you know it"

    And the movie is meant for Little Kids also, So thats why this FORUMS is probably open to little kids also.. :|

    BUt I can seriously tell you this, The way this threads going, I don't see myself being here in the near future.

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    hmm.. To be honest takeing me off the mod group is not going to upset me or anything if it gonna happen, yet I'm not going to ask for it and no one have right to say I will get removed because of my inactivity sinse only mods ( old ones ) I can think of who have been around almoust everyday / week durning their time being moderators are Boos and Nathalie. Sonique have been gone more then once and months, so have Fuzzy, Ghalati, Ngatuny, Me, Vidan, Nuka, Simba 04 and especially our admnis Mufasa and Sarabi. Also Sharifu have been inactive in past few months, but to be honest, if you can get her laptop to charge you must be real good with Laptops, sinse even moving the computer half of inch uselly makes it stop charging.
    I agree Mods should be cooperate more and discuss about stuff, but I had a statement on Mod section about it already and I'm not going to bring it here and what comes to makeing it public... It's not going to happen unless Mufasa gonna do it, because even you wouldn't be able to post there, you could always read and then make a thread here to discuss about it. Moderators and Admins really need a place to discuss about stuff privatly and for everyone to see everything in there is not good idea. ( not that there would be anything unresonable bad things said about any of you )
    also like Nathalie said beofre about me working and studing all the time it's true and like I said before I give more time for this forum then I give for my friends in person.
    But if you guys think Moderator group is better without me, I'm fine with it. I just want to get a reasonable reason and not some lame excuse about being inactive which would make us consider to take half of our moderators off-duty.

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    Not directed at me? Umm...

    It may be harsh Neph, But its the truth and you know it is also. If you know that you won't be able to withstand these conditions then why join up to be a moderator yourself? So you can see a forums others can't? Or is it because you want your name in bold so people recoginze you? Or maybe that you want to be able to have certain things others don't.

    Or is it that you feel its your job?

    But if you can't handle it, Seriously don't accept the offer to Modship.
    Hurhur.

    It is my personal opinion that most children under 13 should not be online unsupervised, on things such as forums. Little kids on the internet? Very, very bad mistake.

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    Nope when I said you I was talking to EVERY MOD on the Forums,

    I mean please tell me another word I could have said other than you? If you can, Then I'll shut my mouth right now.

    Well Neph, If you think about it, Why would you need to supervise on a LION KING Forums, Lion King was a kids movie, Or it was supposed to be and the adults got into it also, It stunned both, But parents probably suspect "Oh its a kids site dont worry about it" But aren't they wrong about lea..

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    Originally posted by Kovu The Lion
    Nope when I said you I was talking to EVERY MOD on the Forums,

    I mean please tell me another word I could have said other than you? If you can, Then I'll shut my mouth right now.

    Well Neph, If you think about it, Why would you need to supervise on a LION KING Forums, Lion King was a kids movie, Or it was supposed to be and the adults got into it also, It stunned both, But parents probably suspect "Oh its a kids site dont worry about it" But aren't they wrong about lea..
    Because, let's be honest, paedophiles aren't going to go to an adults forum to pick up little kids!

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    lmfao, I'm done with you. Not arguing anymore, That post was directed to the mods, everyone of them, Not just you. Accept it or don't.

    And true STM, It is a stupid thing to just take away a moderators status because of Inactivity

    I'm sure all the mods that are inactive here have VERY good reasons as to why they are inactive.

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    Originally posted by Kovu The Lion
    lmfao, I'm done with you. Not arguing anymore, That post was directed to the mods, everyone of them, Not just you. Accept it or don't
    Hehehe, because you know I'm right. And yes, directing it at the mods directs it at me, sweetheart.

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    Originally posted by Nephilim
    Excuse me? How bloody disrespectful can you get? All I said was that people should be responsible for their own actions, and that it is not purely up to me to control your minds. I can deal with it fine, thank you very much.

    I was clearly talking about that part you posted about ME being disrespectful just throwing it out upon you Neph. So No, and Yes, You are 1/2 Right. So Thats still not good enough in my opinion so as you say

    Blah.

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    Originally posted by Kovu The Lion
    I was clearly talking about that part you posted about ME being disrespectful just throwing it out upon you Neph. So No, and Yes, You are 1/2 Right. So Thats still not good enough in my opinion so as you say

    Blah.
    Rephrase that please...

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    Half of you is right about it being directed at you, But Half of you wasn't

    Half of you that is right = Directed at Moderators (all of them)

    Half of you that is wrong = That it was directed at you and only you.


    Understand now?

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    Originally posted by Kovu The Lion
    Half of you is right about it being directed at you, But Half of you wasn't

    Half of you that is right = Directed at Moderators (all of them)

    Half of you that is wrong = That it was directed at you and only you.


    Understand now?
    Yes, thank you. <3

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    Glad you understand Sorry if anything was harassed upon you or if you felt any pain or whatever when I said that. Was just trying to make a point and it came out wrong :|

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    Originally posted by Kovu The Lion
    Glad you understand Sorry if anything was harassed upon you or if you felt any pain or whatever when I said that. Was just trying to make a point and it came out wrong :|
    Eh, it's just the internets. We all love a good mud slinging at one another now and again.

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    by the way, I am not sure if this is mentioned while talked about 13 years or older age limit on this or anyforum. Shouldn't joining be ok if you got permission from your parents even you are under 13? I might have missed something because of yetlag but at least I didn't see that there. And I know someone will say that no one will ever ask their parents, but how can we know if they do. I personaly don't have anything against under 13 year old members being part of community as long as it is ok with their parents.

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