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    Simba's Pride thread

    I couldn't find any general SP threads in the search, just specifics like Kopa, Vitani, Nuka's death, etc...so here we can talk about everything in SP
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    I made a list of PRO'S and CON'S in SP

    Pros:
    -Adult Kiara is cool!
    -Nuka, Vitani, Zira, and Kovu are awesome new characters.
    -Interesting storyline if you look beyond the flaws
    -I personally liked the skies better in SP
    -I liked how the prides (Outsiders and Pridelanders) united
    -I liked the opening scene as much as CoL

    Cons:
    -IMO, cub Kiara is annoying as heck
    -Some of the animation is poor
    -IMO, the Simba in SP is horribly annoying
    -Nala is different
    -No explanation is given as to where the outsiders came from and why Simba hates them so much, etc.


    SO...

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    Re: Simba's Pride thread

    Originally posted by Kiara Serengeti
    Pros:
    -Adult Kiara is cool!
    -Nuka, Vitani, Zira, and Kovu are awesome new characters.
    -Interesting storyline if you look beyond the flaws
    -I personally liked the skies better in SP
    -I liked how the prides (Outsiders and Pridelanders) united
    -I liked the opening scene as much as CoL
    1) No.. no.
    2) True, true. But Kovu goes from bad to goody-goody with one "Yeehaw!", and Vitani seems to make the change a little too fast, too.
    3) SP is just a rehash of Romeo and Juliet, but without the tragedy. The plot, IMHO, was boring and predictable - I mean c'mon, didn't everyone know what was gonna happen?
    4) Yes, the skies were very pretty, but I don't see how that makes the movie better.
    5) see #3
    6) Well.. I hafta agree with that.


    Sorry if I seem anti-SP.. I like it a bit, but not nearly as much as TLK or even TLK1.5. Herm.

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    That's alright, Sombolia. SP wasn't the greatest. But Kovu and Kiara were in there

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    The highlight of SP was Kovu, IMO. He made the movie somewhat better.

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    Originally posted by King Simba
    The highlight of SP was Kovu, IMO. He made the movie somewhat better.
    Ebil Kovu, perhaps.

    I was a fan of pre-united Nuka and Vitani, actually.

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    Yeah, me too. I think Nuka & Vitani are the only ones I really like.. Kovu was cool, but like I said, made the change a little too fast..

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    I liked the movie alot, basically because it gave me more time to spend with some of the characters, as well as the new ones.Simba, though over protective, had an interesting character. He put on some wieght though

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    I dont mind adult Kiara but am a big fan of Kovu and Vitani. I def prefer the skies in LK and nothing can replace the Circle of Life. I luv He lives in you but there was just something missing that I cant put my finger on.

    I rekon there should have been some flashback where they showed Simba exhiling the outlanders. I dont recon Zira would have gone that easy.

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    There is alreadya thread about this:
    http://www.leahalalela.com/showthrea...0&pagenumber=1

    I'll merge it once Kiara S sees this post so she doesn't make a duplicate one later on, wondering where it went

    Anyway.. my views on Simba's Pride...

    Seeing as how Nuka is my favorite Lion King character of all, I of course like Simba's Pride.

    Pros:
    -Nuka, Vitani, and Kovu
    -One of Us
    -Zira is very unique as a villain, she wants not for herself but for another's desires to be fulfilled
    -Disney showed a character die! Too bad it was Nuka *glances over at Kiara* x)

    Cons:
    -Nuka and Vitani got little screen time
    -They cut out Zira's suicide
    -They cut out Kovu's bug sequence
    -They cut out Nuka's real ending
    -Simba is drawn and portayed completely differently then he was at all int he previous film
    -Nala just randomly pops in and out of the film with her eyes all changed ><
    -Zazu's original voice is no longer there
    -The word "Yee Haw"
    -The word "Beeper"
    -Kopa was not included in the movie
    -Mufasa in the clouds was a bit corny, but alright I guess
    -Kiara, just.. Kiara >>;

    Personally, I don't think that Kovu and Vitani did change that rapidly. Kovu wasn't a bad cub, and a part of that par tof him probably always wanted to be free but wasn't sure if it should or not, seeing as all he ever heard was what Zira told him. And Vitani, she's just smart. It was pointed out to her, and she saw the logic in it.

    Also, on adding Kopa intot he mix, Kovu and him could've fought like in Romeo and Juliet perhaps x)

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    ack, I don't agree with many of the cons.

    But hey.

    So when are we going to analyse the original into pros and cons?

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    I think Nuka's real ending should have been kept in. It showed how that all he wanted his entire life was for Zira to love him or at least pay attention to him, and it took his death for her to do so. It would have been so much more depressing ending on the note they intended it to.

    I made an icon with his final quote, actually. I was using it before this one.

    And Zira commiting suicide wasn't completely cut out - looking at grabs, there's an obvious smile on her face as she falls:



    They did cut out her grin and the "No... Never," so it isn't quite as obvious, but there's still a hint of suicide there.

    At least IMHO. ^_^

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    Originally posted by Melody of Scar

    Aha! I thought I saw her grinning, but I thought maybe it was just me being crazy xP

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    Originally posted by Sombolia
    Aha! I thought I saw her grinning, but I thought maybe it was just me being crazy xP
    You're 100% not crazy!

    ...When you thought you saw Zira grinning!

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    Wow, STL.. You're the first person I've ever heard say Mufasa was good-looking

    Kovu and Vitani were fairly good looking.. er, as good-looking as lions can be, I suppose..?

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    Well Muffy isn't bad looking.

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    Well he's not ugly, I'm just sayin', STL's the first.

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    Offtopic: Mufasa says 'grrrr'

    Hehe.

    I agree with Ravoc on most things about SP. Vitani and Nuka definitely need more airtime. And the beeper thing bugs me.

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    Nice Muffy sig.

    And yeah, I agree that they should've gave Vitani and Nuka more airtime. I think they should've included the cut out scenes too.

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    I made that a while ago.

    I wish they had included the cut out scenes too. I only recently saw them. Less Timon and Pumbaa I say.

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    I think there's far too much Timon and Pumbaa in the 3rd movie. They should've included adolescent Simba more I think. =)

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