Lion king 2 and lion king 1/2 isnt as gd as the origanal do you agree?

[Lucy Lioness]

Considering that Simba is the same through the whole movie, and we supposedly saw him at Kiara's presentation at the end of the 1st movie, I'm not sure. Bceuase they looked totally different. The whole thing looked different, making me think the cub at the end of the first movie was not Kiara. Conspiracy theory!

[This Land]

thats true lookin at it,
the cub at the end of TLK supossedly this is kiara but how can it, this cub at the end of TLK has a very small mane, like simba had when he was a cub, so how can it be a girl.

[Katse]

What I've noticed in the animators trying reanimate the original characters in the sequels is that it's just too hard for them, by some stupid reason they don't have enough good reference, or they just got lazy. Simba does look like a bear in TLK2, and like I said before, they didn't seem to settle on one design in TLK 1 1/2. I don't think age had nothing to do with it. They just can't draw the original TLK characters like they used to.:/

Timali had a good pic that she did explaining the confusion of Kiara and the cub at the end of TLK1.

[Lucy Lioness]

Methinks the cub at the end of TLK 1 was a male, but the makers of the sequel decided to make the cub a female so they could have a better story. I think they are probs meant to be the same, but don't look it because of the change of the cub from a male to a female for SP's story.

[This Land]

that i think has to be the biggest goof.
the cub at the end of TLK is male (telling this by a yellow mane starting to grow on its heads) then in lion king 2 this cub is female.

[Kiara Serengeti]

In the books, TLK: SIX NEW ADVENTURES, there was a male cub named Kopa. However, then TLK 2 came out with Kiara, and there was no mention of Kopa.

[This Land]

it might of just followed on from the books then, but as you said where is kopa mentioned,

[Katse]

This picture by Timali is a good explaination for this....

[Melody of Scar]

Thank you, Katse. XD

[This Land]

i see, this explains alot, thanks katse

[King Simba]

Yeah, I was gonna go and look for that pic earlier. Anyways, thanks for that Katse.

[Sombolia]

I don't think it's because his age he looks screwy, the story from Disney that we're supposed to believe is that the presentation at the end of 1 and the beginning of 2 were the same thing. So if that's true, he wouldn't be any older =P

[Katse]

Don't thank me, thank Timali for taking the time to put the pic together. I was just bored enough to go looking for it and post it here.

@ Somby: I agree with you there. I think it's just that they weren't able to reanimate him like the original animators. My last post before the one with the pic says that.

[Sombolia]

Yeah, I agree.. I mean, they could've at least used the right colors >_< ...they had charts.. =P

[Katse]

I think they made the mistake of using the colors of Simba and Nala when they were in the jungle. That could be an explaination for Nala's blue eyes is SP.

[Lucy Lioness]

Originally posted by Sombolia
Yeah, I agree.. I mean, they could've at least used the right colors >_< ...they had charts.. =P

Lol, making Simba look less bear-like would be a start!

*I am in such a weird mood* Weeeee!

[This Land]

why did disney make a sequal with such a big gap in between, why couldnt they make a flush sequal so there would be no questions such as:
where where zira and the outlanders when TLK events took place?
when was zira banished?
etc etc etc ...
wouldnt of it been alot easier if they done a sequal which follows straight after the first lion king.

[King Simba]

Originally posted by Lucy Lioness
Lol, making Simba look less bear-like would be a start!

*I am in such a weird mood* Weeeee!

Yeah and my sister thought the only difference between Simba in the second movie to Simba in the original was that he just got too overprotective. She didn't think he looked weird.

[Sombolia]

Gaaaaah, I HATED Simba in TLK2... blargh.

You know, I have a GREAT theory.

The lions in TLK2 aren't the same lions from TLK at all, they just look vaugely similar have the same names!

IT'S PERFECT!

*weeps in corner*

[Katse]

Have you noticed that the same thing happens with original movie characters in other sequels, too? They get all freakishly overprotective of their kid, like Ariel and Tramp did in their sequels. I can kind of understand it with Ariel, since her father was the same way with her and that kind of thing tends to happen in families.*shrug* Tramp acting like that bothered me. If there was going to be an overprotective parent, I thought it'd be Lady. But back ontopic.XP

I just read somewhere(thanks, Sharifu) that they indeed, didn't really use the original model sheets for the characters in SP, at least they didn't for Timon.