I agree, Va-kasi. PERFECT way to point it out! ^_^ I mean, I know the details aren't EXACTLY the same, but still.
And I was going to e-mail Sarafina, but I figured she wouldn't be bothered with an art theft from Neopets.
I agree, Va-kasi. PERFECT way to point it out! ^_^ I mean, I know the details aren't EXACTLY the same, but still.
And I was going to e-mail Sarafina, but I figured she wouldn't be bothered with an art theft from Neopets.
It's still not similar enough to be considered art theft, it's too risky to risk that artist's credibility. The fact that they put facial differences, the ears, the chin, the jaw, and meere dimensions of the pic (look at the rectangular shape of each picture) are too much. The ear itself may not seem like much, but it's a major landmark of the head that would effect the entire image if it was off balance. It may have happened, but it's not enough to accuse someone. Take both images, crop them to where they are the same, rotate them and all that, and then flash them back and forth on top of eachother. There's more of a difference than that picture implies.
In my opinion, if it's similar enough that I can think of the exact picture it was copied form, I have a right to accuse.
Not everyone is an expert at tracing, so you can't expect every detail to be exact.
I think you all need to step back and cool off. A traced picture is nothing to get worked up over. Several people have reported them to NeoPets manager, so they will decide what happenes. Either way, you don't have to worry about about lableing, Pntbll. No one said anything to the NeoPets general public, so this will remain confidential between the artist and NeoPets administration.
Finally, you shouldn't judge sombody without hearing their side of the story. I am sure this Nuukah ment no harm by using Sarafina's picture as an outline. They probably just liked the flower idea. I am sure that if Sarafina confronted them about it, they would take it down witout a second thought. I am also sure the Sarafina wouldn'ty care about someone who traced her picture for fun. In fact, she may even be flattered that sombody liked her art that much.
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Was the lion king art theft because nearly every person who's ever seen Kimba the White Lion knows that it probably comes from that movie? *Reports Disney*
@ Roquivo: They've been labeled here; it's no longer between the admins and the artist in question.
Wow, I didn't think this was going to be such a big deal. u_u
Why any time I post something, it blows up in my face?
Eh.. don't worry about it Cerise. Though I do disagree with you about the topic at hand.. all we are are people bhind computer screens hundreds or even thousands of miles away from ya ^^ If someone is ticking you off or something, forget itOriginally posted by Cerise
Wow, I didn't think this was going to be such a big deal. u_u
Why any time I post something, it blows up in my face?
The internet is no reason to get sad, angry, etc.. I have sadly learnt that lessont he hard way, and still learn it fromt ime to time.
But seriously don't worry about what anyone else has to say about it. You stated your opinion =) If others disagree.. so what? ^^
I just don't think it's right to be putting the verdict on someone who is not even able to defend themselves.
As for being labled here, Pnt, then isn't it still between the artist, Nukaah, and the acuser, Cerise? Unless you are some kind of online lawyer, how does anything you say have any impact on the situation?
I am not taking sides or acusing anybody of anything. I just don't think this situation even belongs in this forum. It should have been reported strait to Sarafina, so she could decide how to handle it. It is her decision to acuse the artists, not mine, yours, Cerice's, nor anyone elses here.
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I guess this would belong more at Lilymud, since it's the TLKFAA messageboard, but it's down and I kind of forgot that this place has no connection with TLKFAA.
It's ok Cerise, It's a good thing you're looking out for other artists
I agree with you that it's too similar to be considered as "original art" but all also agree with Roquivo that I don't think they meant any harm by referencing Sarafina's art.
However I guess they'll learn from it (being reported I mean).
Yup Time to Take out the Bamm Hammer, and take them down.
Four words, Cerise: Men will be men.Originally posted by Cerise
Wow, I didn't think this was going to be such a big deal. u_u
Why any time I post something, it blows up in my face?
(No hard feelings, guys! Just making a lame joke, lol )
Eh, it's happened to me lots of times (being blown up in the face by guys), so just letting you know I've been through it too. Just don't start getting extrememly mad like me. After that, it changes your opinon on a person. : /
What do you mean by "being blown up in the face by guys"? Anyways, if you post something that's opinionated, always expect some opposite views and a debate. And unless if there's personal attacks in a debate, you shouldn't dislike somebody just because of their views.Originally posted by Suki
Eh, it's happened to me lots of times (being blown up in the face by guys), so just letting you know I've been through it too. Just don't start getting extrememly mad like me. After that, it changes your opinon on a person. : /
I didn't mean to put it in a bad way. And who asked you anyways? (j/k) And I don't dislike people becuse of their veiws.Originally posted by Xinithian
What do you mean by "being blown up in the face by guys"? Anyways, if you post something that's opinionated, always expect some opposite views and a debate. And unless if there's personal attacks in a debate, you shouldn't dislike somebody just because of their views.
*cough* getting out of hand *cough*
IN MY OWN OPINION: i think that the picture is traced. I believe that the person SHOULD have cited Sarafina. About it being art theft, i'm left in the middle. It's kinda taking the picture but indirectly.
She wasn't here to defend herself against being charged as a thief before five hundred people, I'm not gonna sit by and let someone be railroaded like that. If Cerise opens a thread on this forum, then it's between anyone on the forum. I'm on this forum, so therefore I have a say in it. If someone opens a thread condeming a person as a thief, then I, being on this forum, have all the right and ability to address my concerns about the fact that some people are willing to ruin an artist without them even being here to defend themselves. If you don't like that, well, then I guess you're out of luckOriginally posted by Roquivo
As for being labled here, Pnt, then isn't it still between the artist, Nukaah, and the acuser, Cerise? Unless you are some kind of online lawyer, how does anything you say have any impact on the situation?
Wow...
Um, she obviously isn't a real "artist" if she has to copy someone else's work.
I forgot that this isn't the TLKFAA messageboard, so forgive me for posting this.
Yeah, I don't really expect someone who isn't an artist to understand. But I don't see why pntbll is getting so upset over it. Oh well.
Pntbll is an artist, as am I So I think we understand
However I believe this topic is become a bit over heated. Let's try to keep it calm please? Thanks ^^
Well at least she likes your art.
Not an artist. Right. Just because I don't post my art here doesn't mean I'm not an artist.
I'm not really that worked up, I was sitting here eating a friggin drumstick ice cream and watching Discovery Channel when I was typing all that. Now, I'm about tired of a few people on MSN telling me I'm being mean and certainly tired of this "OmG!!11!1 Calm Down!!!!!!!!" attitude that someone always gets on this forum. Of course, I won't apologize for how I sound, that's how I speak in real life.