Zira!

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Originally posted by Melody of Scar
She said that villians can love but Zira didn't have to do everything the way Scar would have. She didn't have to try and attack Kiara when she was trying to help her back up, but she did because Scar would have done the same. ( :confused: Where this reasoning comes from, I don't know... )

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What makes you think Scar would have done the same? Scar and Zira are two very different characters. Scar was deceptive and manipulative, while Zira was spiteful and vindictive. I can't see Scar swatting at a helping paw, even if only to push the paw over after it helped :evilgrin:

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I have a problem with Zira's age... Shouldn't she have been old and gray by Simba's Pride? She had lived to see two generations after her grow up...

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Generations don't have to come in blocks, you know. Most likely, she was somewhere between Simba's and Scar's age (probably closer to Simba, acutally).

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Originally posted by Va-Kasi
Zira may be younger than Scar. She may not have even been his mate, so there's nothing saying that she defiantly is the same age as Scar ;)

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And even if she were his mate, where does it state that mates must be the same age? :bleen:

Shatara, when MoS said that, she was translating what NtL had said earlier because NtL was.. well.. um.. confusing :cheese:

And it doesn't state anywhere that I know of that you have to be a certain age to go with someone else.

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Originally posted by Ravoc
Shatara, when MoS said that, she was translating what NtL had said earlier because NtL was.. well.. um.. confusing :cheese:

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So what changed other than the one being rebuked?

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Originally posted by Melody of Scar
Allow me to translate, mi amor.

She said that villians can love but Zira didn't have to do everything the way Scar would have. She didn't have to try and attack Kiara when she was trying to help her back up, but she did because Scar would have done the same. ( :confused: Where this reasoning comes from, I don't know... ) And then Nala assures Simba that Kiara's just like he was when he was younger, so she'll be okay.

I have a problem with Zira's age... Shouldn't she have been old and gray by Simba's Pride? She had lived to see two generations after her grow up...

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Lol, thank you x)

Yeah, I agree with Shatara.. Zira was different then Scar in alot of ways...

And I imagine Zira being a cub when Simba was born, so she was around adolescensy when he was a cub, etc..

But Scar was an adult when Simba was born...

The age difference doesn't work... X.x

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Originally posted by Melody of Scar
But Scar was an adult when Simba was born...

The age difference doesn't work... X.x

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What age difference doesn't work?

If Zira was a cub when Simba was born.

Scar was already an adult by that point, so basically when he was approaching old age he'd be with a lioness just entering her prime.

I mean it'd work for their purposes, but I just don't like that.

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Originally posted by Melody of Scar
If Zira was a cub when Simba was born.

Scar was already an adult by that point, so basically when he was approaching old age he'd be with a lioness just entering her prime.

I mean it'd work for their purposes, but I just don't like that.

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I worked it out, and it works fine (mathmatically speaking).

But I can see your point.. but then again, it's not like he wouldn't do it - he tried to seduce Nala, who is younger. *shrugs*

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Originally posted by Sombolia
I worked it out, and it works fine (mathmatically speaking).

But I can see your point.. but then again, it's not like he wouldn't do it - he tried to seduce Nala, who is younger. *shrugs*

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Which is true.

... Let's just leave it at Scar's a horny old lion. :evilgrin:

he'd probably try to seduce Vitani or Kiara if he could...:eek: well, maybe not Kiara..:woeisme:

LOL MoS XD

starlioness: I don't think so.. who in their right mind would wanna seduce Kiara (except Kovu, but he's obviously insane, so he doesn't count)? And Vitani's his daughter.. at least, in my warped, little fantasy world she is, even if that doesn't make mathmatical sense.

Shutting up now.

NEVER SPEAK OF SCAR DEFILING HIMSELF BY EVEN TOUCHING KIARA... :die:

;) <3

Vitani/Scar would made me die a little inside.

And you mean "doesn't mathematically make sense", right Sombi? :evilgrin:

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Originally posted by Melody of Scar
NEVER SPEAK OF SCAR DEFILING HIMSELF BY EVEN TOUCHING KIARA... :die:

;) <3

Vitani/Scar would made me die a little inside.

And you mean "doesn't mathematically make sense", right Sombi? :evilgrin:

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I think Kovu is Scar's son, but Scar offically disowned him after he fell in love with Kiara, so Zira went back in time and erased all mentions of them being related.

This has been CONSPIRICY THEORIES FOR IDIOTS.

And I meant "even if that doesn't make mathmatical sense" - darn little -ly, slipping into my posts and messing up my grammar! >_<

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Originally posted by Sombolia
Gah. I don't like WAO..

My fave is HLIY. ML is er.. different, WAO isn't my type of song, Upendi was just embarrassing, and LWFAW was okay.

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Ugh... Upendi. I can't express my feelings for that song. Why did they even put that in the movie?! I think that was the worst song, IMO.... ML was okay, it was entertaining, but for younger kids, I'd have to disagree. :p I like cub Kovu more than the adult Kovu, I liked Zira's character Design, and I think she ties with Scar for me. Kiara... I like her, but... I just think she was missing something. They could have added more to her personality or something. I love Simba in the first movie, but not too much in the second. Vitani is the bomb... Nuka is cool, but whacked. Am I missing anyone? lol.... this is all MY OPINION...

Sorry to disappoint y'all, but Zira is Scar/Muffy's sister. I read it in a press release somewhere.

I'll dig that up at some point soon, I promise. Anyway, it does make a lot of sense.

What I think is, Scar and Zira plotted against Mufasa (we don't see this in TLK1 because, well, Zira didn't exist back then), but Scar (being the super evil genius we know n' love....:evilgrin: ) kept quiet with his plans whilst Zira did not.

It could be that Scar wanted Zira as his sister-queen ('no incest' indeed, Disney...), which would explain Nuka's haggard appearance. After that I surmise Scar told Zira to find a rogue, and perhaps if a suitable heir was not born, ordered them (the rogue) killed. But I'm crazy like that. :ayecapn:

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Originally posted by ChildOfThePride
Sorry to disappoint y'all, but Zira is Scar/Muffy's sister. I read it in a press release somewhere.

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*snort* Dude, that's the same "press release" that said Sarabi was banished to the Outlands and that Kovu is Scar's nephew. In short, it's crap.

http://fanart.lionking.org/Artists/T...Screengrab.gif

No it wasn't...

It was posted on Ultimate Disney, which is a very reputable source.

EDIT: Oh. Silly me, that's the official Disney site. LOL.

I think we are just overcomplicating things.

Wait.

Zira is Scar and Mufasa's sister? :confused:

http://disney.go.com/disneyvideos/an...ngle_king.html

Tell if me that sounds right to you.. e_e