lol. really. they've got tons of sights about people yelling about it.
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lol. really. they've got tons of sights about people yelling about it.
Simba all the waY!!!!:die:
That Kimba was something like Astroboy, and that cartoon stinks:eww:
LOL! Glad to see I'm not the only one :bleen: :evilgrin:
I occasionally see sites putting down TLK for that, and I'm like,"Oh, yeah...they would've known about some show that came on in Japan in the 70's!" :mad: :disagree: :huh:
Most definitely Simba. I don't know that much about Kimba. The only thing I know about him is that he's white and made by Japanese people. :hmm:
Ah yes, the old Kimba/Simba debate...an oldie, but a goodie.
I'm seen Kimba, and personally, I think Simba is far more superior. Other than that, I don't think much about the entire Kimba/Simba thing anymore...
it's funny...you never really see any sites yelling about the slew of children's movies that rip off of Disney's stuff (mostly because they're small, unpopular movies that you can only find in the Walmart $1 bins)
I know. This topics been around awhile! Dude...them $1 bins used to be my sisters fav. place. She'd but all of these crap movies, and sell them for double the price.
Just a random little tidbit of information... Kimba means dungheap in Swahili. :evilgrin:
kimba { English: dungheap }
noun , pl vimba
kimba { English: heap of excrement }
noun , pl vimba
(Definitions from Kamusi project)
Now make your choice. XD :bleen:
Kimba was originally going to be named Simba, since Leo was deemed to generic a name. But there was word that a soda was coming out called "Simba"....so they decided on Kimba.
TLK may have many simularities with Kimba, but Kimba is based off a true story about an African prince who is exiled after his father, the King, was murdered by his Uncle who took power. The Prince later returned to reclaim his kingdom....and that's all i know...Woot!.....:D
hmrrr....this Kimba sounds intresting......care to show me the name of the Japanise moive ?=D
There's quite a bit of Kimba out there. The debate typically centers around the original TV series, which is out as a DVD boxed set. There's also the "sequel" series that was "Leo the White Lion", which came out on DVD more recently (past year, I think), though I don't believe in a boxed set.Quote:
Originally posted by shadow
hmrrr....this Kimba sounds intresting......care to show me the name of the Japanise moive ?=D
"Kimba the Lion Prince" is a Canadian dub of the original series. Something about not having the rights to the audio. And then there's the 1989 remake series, "New Adventures of Kimba the White Lion" (if memory serves), that Pioneer Family supposedly butchered in their edit/dub.
There's a "Symphonic Poem" (think Disney's "Silly Symphonies" or even Fantasia -- all music, no dialogue) based on Kimba that covers what I guess would be akin to an episode or two of the story.
A movie was done back in the...'70s, I think. From what I understand, it was only made available in Japan. More recently, there was a 1997 film, Jungle Emperor Leo (or Jungle Taitei, aka Janguru Taitei), which is available on DVD.
Er, that doesn't sound much like Kimba. Human hunters killed Kimba's father and Claw, the lion that takes over in Kimba's absence, is of no relation to either white lion.Quote:
Originally posted by lion_roog
Kimba is based off a true story about an African prince who is exiled after his father, the King, was murdered by his Uncle who took power. The Prince later returned to reclaim his kingdom....and that's all i know...
Argh... not again this conversation... there is tons of post about this in many threads.
Here it is ... : http://www.leahalalela.com/showthrea...ighlight=kimba
Maybe a mod can merge it or something?
Threads merged:ayecapn:Quote:
Originally posted by nathalie
Here it is ... : http://www.leahalalela.com/showthrea...ighlight=kimba
Maybe a mod can merge it or something?
Hey!....It's my lie and I will tell it how I want.....:DQuote:
Originally posted by Snowy
Er, that doesn't sound much like Kimba. Human hunters killed Kimba's father and Claw, the lion that takes over in Kimba's absence, is of no relation to either white lion.
I really don't know if Disney copy it or not... I just like TLK and will still like it whether it's a copy or not. And I haven't seen nothing about Kimba, so I don't know if it's that similar or just some coincidences.
[SIZE=huge]It's Hamlet.[/SIZE]
Everyone knows that. And if you don't, you should and you do now. I'm not sure if Kimba copied Hamlet too... I've never seen Kimba. I'm allergic to 16 frame per second 20 cel color animation.
EVERY character in TLK can be mirrored back to a character in Shakespeare's Hamlet. Most all the major scenes are the same too. Only real difference is that there is a lead up to the point where the Hamlet plot starts (at Mufasa's death) and there is a happy ending. TLK is a Disney movie. Hamlet is an epic tragedy. It's a candy coated re-telling of the most celebrated play in the English language! TLK fans should love that. There's a bit of MacBeth tied in as well.
If you have read Hamlet and you are confuzzled, ask me something and I will explain.
What was the point of Kimba? Ya know how many whie lions there are in reality?
There are similarities and I think Disney probably did copy from Kimba some. But h*ll, they copied from Hamlet, too. A lot of great movies, stories, books, are plagerism....we all do it.
I second that. Regarding Kimba vs. Simba however, I think that there are some very strong resembalances, but I dont think Disney would rip off such great work.Quote:
Originally posted by CheshireCat
[SIZE=huge]It's Hamlet.[/SIZE]
Everyone knows that. And if you don't, you should and you do now. I'm not sure if Kimba copied Hamlet too... I've never seen Kimba. I'm allergic to 16 frame per second 20 cel color animation.
EVERY character in TLK can be mirrored back to a character in Shakespeare's Hamlet. Most all the major scenes are the same too. Only real difference is that there is a lead up to the point where the Hamlet plot starts (at Mufasa's death) and there is a happy ending. TLK is a Disney movie. Hamlet is an epic tragedy. It's a candy coated re-telling of the most celebrated play in the English language! TLK fans should love that. There's a bit of MacBeth tied in as well.
If you have read Hamlet and you are confuzzled, ask me something and I will explain.
Hear, hear! :ayecapn:Quote:
Originally posted by CheshireCat
[SIZE=huge]It's Hamlet.[/SIZE]
Everyone knows that. And if you don't, you should and you do now. I'm not sure if Kimba copied Hamlet too... I've never seen Kimba. I'm allergic to 16 frame per second 20 cel color animation.
EVERY character in TLK can be mirrored back to a character in Shakespeare's Hamlet. Most all the major scenes are the same too. Only real difference is that there is a lead up to the point where the Hamlet plot starts (at Mufasa's death) and there is a happy ending. TLK is a Disney movie. Hamlet is an epic tragedy. It's a candy coated re-telling of the most celebrated play in the English language! TLK fans should love that. There's a bit of MacBeth tied in as well.
If you have read Hamlet and you are confuzzled, ask me something and I will explain.
I just think Kimba fans are jealous. :bleen:
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Originally posted by Melody of Scar
I just think Kimba fans are jealous. :bleen:
:lol: Well of course they are.. we're more awesome than them. :evilgrin:
Sorry to drag up a "used" topic, but I do have something constructive to add.
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Yes, there's very little doubt TLK was based off of 'Kimba'. But it improves on the stories and adds original ideas. The combination of original animation and graphics plus the 'Kimba' factor is magical; maybe it was a little greedy, but plagerism is human nature. I'm not condoning it, but lot of things aren't completely original; there's parodies of shows and movies all over the place.
I think the fans of 'Kimba' overreact a little. The story was treated nicely and sparked interest in 'Kimba' anyway.
(p.s. Jungle Emporer Leo is excellent--and similar to TLK)
I believe that disney was just doing what they have always done: remake an old, well-known story into one of their great cartoons. And it turned out nicely. Get back on track Disney before you go to he** in a bucket:rolleyes: :woeisme:
we're not allowed to bring up old topics, AND we're not allowed to start new threads either, then how the heck are we supposed to be able talk about things like this? Just something that struck me, cuz its bugging me to always hear im always writing wrong or are not allowed to talk in old threads anyway ...Quote:
Originally posted by Kiara Serengeti
Sorry to drag up a "used" topic
For this Kimba thing, i think Disney copied it, but that also Tezuka copied it from Hamlet ... And they didnt REALLY copy it, did they :confused: They just remade it a bit :D:p What about this other Simba; the king lion thing? XD That totally sucks, i dunno why they came up with that serie with all those mixed up Disney charries ...
From what I understand, at least for regular discussion topics (as opposed to welcome threads and the like), you can resurrect a thread so long as you have a good reason - this usually entails contributing something substantial or significant to the thread topic.Quote:
Originally posted by kiara
we're not allowed to bring up old topics, AND we're not allowed to start new threads either, then how the heck are we supposed to be able talk about things like this? Just something that struck me, cuz its bugging me to always hear im always writing wrong or are not allowed to talk in old threads anyway ...
Hmm, I've never read "No dragging up older topics" in the rules list...:bleen: Though I'm new here....
yeah, as long as you have something to add on the topic feel free to post on any topic you want. because if you make a new thread it just adds trouble for moderators to find the old thread and to merge the old and the new one.
Pumping up the old thread for no reason is against the rules thought and is not tolerated in long run.
Oh, How i HATE this...
I may be getting this thread active, but it's not useless.
I, own an old VSH of Kimba The White Lion, in dutch ofcourse. I like it alot, but it's quite obvious that Disney copied it. Ore at least, I just can't imagine otherwise. There are t?? many facts that are thesame. But to say that Disney copied it, is rather harsh to say. I think Disney got inspired by this movie, and based TLK upon it.
i akshely dont think Disney "copied" it they might get inspiration from it but i wouldent say copy" hell look at the result chance"
and am not sure they even did becuse Kimba (Simba) sounds WAY to obvies for a copy to akshely do so and not be an tottal idot...so i think thev might got a thing or to from it like they got from Hamlet but god no they didnt copy it " acording to me" and i know the whole Kimba thing the similrties but why dont we say they ripped of hamlet then?
so acording to me they got inspired by hamlet " Kimba to perhaps?" knew abut Kimba and replaced the K with and S and thought of a great name"
now that is not ripp off...but inspiration...
i mean seriesly...there are like 10000 9/11 books out there but they all are "diffrent" and you dont compare those books and say" that one ripped that one off" Disny and the kimba creators got the same idea of Hamlet" I belive"
I agree.
At the moment I don't have enough time to write (in proper English) my whole opinion on this issue (and read all posts in this thread), but I want to say one or two things:
I always think it's strange that, when people discuss this topic, they rarely talk about an important film: Bambi.
Obviously, The Lion King was inspired by Bambi.
(TLK was called as "Bambi meets Hamlet and Elton John in Africa" or something like that!)
And Jungle Emperor (or Kimba the White Lion) was also inspired by Bambi.
Though I'm not so familiar with Tezuka's works, it is known that he loved Disney animation, and I heard he saw Bambi 80 times in theater. (I don't know whether it's true or just an exaggeration)
Though I haven't seen TV series, I've read a version of the original comics Jungle Emperor, and I noticed similarities among Bambi, Kimba, and TLK.
I'm not saying Disney was never inspired by Kimba, but in my opinion, Kimba has very different story from TLK, so it's meaningless to compare these two story... both are great in their own way. And I enjoy finding similarities. It's fun.
By the way... I always think it's funny that Americans changed Leo's name to KIMBA... because in Japanese, "kimba" means "gold tooth"! :lol:
and in swahili - corpse! :lol:Quote:
Originally posted by White Wagtail
I always think it's funny that Americans changed Leo's name to KIMBA... because in Japanese, "kimba" means "gold tooth"! :lol: