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August 2nd, 2005, 08:35 AM
unregistered user

:lol: Oh my gosh.. *wonders what will happen when Taka Tiger reads starlioness's post about babies* x)
August 3rd, 2005, 11:28 PM
Simba Child

Zira is kinda cool and sadistic in my opinon, but KIARA IS HOT! :D :D :D :evilgrin:
August 3rd, 2005, 11:32 PM
Shatara

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Originally posted by Prince Simba
*teh stuff*

While true, Vitani is teh pwn, and Nuka's pretty cool, Zira's psycho-ness is the best part of her :p It's what makes her a good villan.

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Originally posted by Simba Child
Zira is kinda cool and sadistic in my opinon, but KIARA IS HOT! :D :D :D :evilgrin:

...Only when gagged http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v1...bumms/ebil.gif
August 4th, 2005, 12:40 AM
Sombolia

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Originally posted by Shatara
...Only when gagged http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v1...bumms/ebil.gif

I'll second that. :jejeje:
August 4th, 2005, 12:53 AM
Lucy Lioness

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Originally posted by Sombolia
I'll second that. :jejeje:

Thirded! :D Really, I can't stand Kiara. All that idiotic giggling. *Shudders* :p
August 4th, 2005, 12:57 AM
Sombolia

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Originally posted by Lucy Lioness
Thirded! :D Really, I can't stand Kiara. All that idiotic giggling. *Shudders* :p

I'll second that as well XD
August 4th, 2005, 09:35 PM
Kiara Serengeti

Kiara was only an airhead as a cub, IMO. I just think she had sort of that attitude from such a protected life, she was so coddled that she really didn't know how 2 interact...IMO again.
August 4th, 2005, 10:00 PM
Sombolia

She seemed the same to me as an adult & cub - she only seemed to grow up in the war scene. I was like, "Moodswing much?"
August 6th, 2005, 03:17 PM
Nala The Lion

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Originally posted by Simba Child
Zira is kinda cool and sadistic in my opinon, but KIARA IS HOT! :D :D :D :evilgrin:

na uh Zira sucks! that voice, her personality - it all sucks! she's totally a suck up of Scar! :haha:
August 6th, 2005, 03:34 PM
Kiara Serengeti

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Originally posted by Nala The Lion
na uh Zira sucks! that voice, her personality - it all sucks! she's totally a suck up of Scar! :haha:

:secret: Maybe Scar's brain was taken out and they replaced Zira's brain with his! :evilgrin: JK...of course.
August 6th, 2005, 07:31 PM
Sombolia

Yeah, and Nala just sucks up to Simba, and Kiara just sucks up to Kovu. Sorry, I forgot villians are so 2D they can't even love.
August 7th, 2005, 12:50 PM
trexmaster

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Also, her song, 'My Lullaby', is easily the most sadistic song ever to grace a Disney movie.

I like it for its intensity and fastness. Not that I would endorse her behavior...
August 7th, 2005, 03:13 PM
Nalinda

In my opinion Zira is a big idiot.. even though I don't like Scar nor Zira I have to agree that Scar was so much smarter than her.

Even though they're both idiots.
August 7th, 2005, 03:59 PM
Melody of Scar

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Originally posted by Sombolia
I'll second that as well XD

Fourthed!

...Or fifthed? :confused:
August 7th, 2005, 04:45 PM
Nala The Lion

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Originally posted by Nalinda
In my opinion Zira is a big idiot.. even though I don't like Scar nor Zira I have to agree that Scar was so much smarter than her.

Even though they're both idiots.

seconded! and Somby ofcourse villians can love but that doesn't mean she has to do EVERYTHING the way Scar would ''This is for you Scar'' and it doesn't mean she has to try and Kill Kiara at the end when she tries to help her from falling off the cliff! She could of took the help but No Scar wouldn't of done so she doesn't! Nala reminds Simba that she's just like him ''who does she remind you of?... she's just like you were'' and reassures him that she'll be ok!
August 11th, 2005, 04:38 PM
Luna

I rather liked the song "My Lullaby" ;D I sing it all the time. I'm just weird like that. I loved Scar and I possiably loved Zira even more. I love evil/sadistic/cynical characters.
August 11th, 2005, 05:00 PM
Iestyn

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Originally posted by Nalinda
In my opinion Zira is a big idiot.. even though I don't like Scar nor Zira I have to agree that Scar was so much smarter than her.

Even though they're both idiots.

I have to say, I find your hatred for two fictional characters quite amusing x)

As for me, I echo what Neph said, Zira is a total OTT psycho in SP. However, I did like My Lullaby, It's clearly the best song in the entire movie, all the others are slightly childish and boring.
August 11th, 2005, 09:52 PM
Sombolia

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Originally posted by Nala The Lion
seconded! and Somby ofcourse villians can love but that doesn't mean she has to do EVERYTHING the way Scar would ''This is for you Scar'' and it doesn't mean she has to try and Kill Kiara at the end when she tries to help her from falling off the cliff! She could of took the help but No Scar wouldn't of done so she doesn't! Nala reminds Simba that she's just like him ''who does she remind you of?... she's just like you were'' and reassures him that she'll be ok!

Um, okay.. I read that twice and I didn't take in a word of it.

You mind rephrasing that? :confused:

Scar's not an idiot.. he obviously though things through alot. If he was stupid, could he have gotten away with it for that long? The only mistake he made was telling Simba because he thought he would die (at the end, in the fire).
August 12th, 2005, 01:23 AM
Melody of Scar

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Originally posted by Sombolia
Um, okay.. I read that twice and I didn't take in a word of it.

You mind rephrasing that? :confused:

Scar's not an idiot.. he obviously though things through alot. If he was stupid, could he have gotten away with it for that long? The only mistake he made was telling Simba because he thought he would die (at the end, in the fire).

Allow me to translate, mi amor.

She said that villians can love but Zira didn't have to do everything the way Scar would have. She didn't have to try and attack Kiara when she was trying to help her back up, but she did because Scar would have done the same. ( :confused: Where this reasoning comes from, I don't know... ) And then Nala assures Simba that Kiara's just like he was when he was younger, so she'll be okay.

I have a problem with Zira's age... Shouldn't she have been old and gray by Simba's Pride? She had lived to see two generations after her grow up...
August 12th, 2005, 01:57 AM
va-kasi

Zira may be younger than Scar. She may not have even been his mate, so there's nothing saying that she defiantly is the same age as Scar ;)
August 12th, 2005, 02:04 AM
Shatara

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Originally posted by Melody of Scar
She said that villians can love but Zira didn't have to do everything the way Scar would have. She didn't have to try and attack Kiara when she was trying to help her back up, but she did because Scar would have done the same. ( :confused: Where this reasoning comes from, I don't know... )

What makes you think Scar would have done the same? Scar and Zira are two very different characters. Scar was deceptive and manipulative, while Zira was spiteful and vindictive. I can't see Scar swatting at a helping paw, even if only to push the paw over after it helped :evilgrin:

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I have a problem with Zira's age... Shouldn't she have been old and gray by Simba's Pride? She had lived to see two generations after her grow up...

Generations don't have to come in blocks, you know. Most likely, she was somewhere between Simba's and Scar's age (probably closer to Simba, acutally).

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Originally posted by Va-Kasi
Zira may be younger than Scar. She may not have even been his mate, so there's nothing saying that she defiantly is the same age as Scar ;)

And even if she were his mate, where does it state that mates must be the same age? :bleen:
August 12th, 2005, 02:18 AM
unregistered user

Shatara, when MoS said that, she was translating what NtL had said earlier because NtL was.. well.. um.. confusing :cheese:

And it doesn't state anywhere that I know of that you have to be a certain age to go with someone else.
August 12th, 2005, 02:52 AM
Shatara

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Originally posted by Ravoc
Shatara, when MoS said that, she was translating what NtL had said earlier because NtL was.. well.. um.. confusing :cheese:

So what changed other than the one being rebuked?
August 12th, 2005, 03:00 AM
Sombolia

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Originally posted by Melody of Scar
Allow me to translate, mi amor.

She said that villians can love but Zira didn't have to do everything the way Scar would have. She didn't have to try and attack Kiara when she was trying to help her back up, but she did because Scar would have done the same. ( :confused: Where this reasoning comes from, I don't know... ) And then Nala assures Simba that Kiara's just like he was when he was younger, so she'll be okay.

I have a problem with Zira's age... Shouldn't she have been old and gray by Simba's Pride? She had lived to see two generations after her grow up...

Lol, thank you x)

Yeah, I agree with Shatara.. Zira was different then Scar in alot of ways...

And I imagine Zira being a cub when Simba was born, so she was around adolescensy when he was a cub, etc..
August 12th, 2005, 03:15 AM
Melody of Scar

But Scar was an adult when Simba was born...

The age difference doesn't work... X.x
August 12th, 2005, 03:25 AM
Shatara

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Originally posted by Melody of Scar
But Scar was an adult when Simba was born...

The age difference doesn't work... X.x

What age difference doesn't work?
August 12th, 2005, 04:05 AM
Melody of Scar

If Zira was a cub when Simba was born.

Scar was already an adult by that point, so basically when he was approaching old age he'd be with a lioness just entering her prime.

I mean it'd work for their purposes, but I just don't like that.
August 12th, 2005, 04:12 AM
Sombolia

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Originally posted by Melody of Scar
If Zira was a cub when Simba was born.

Scar was already an adult by that point, so basically when he was approaching old age he'd be with a lioness just entering her prime.

I mean it'd work for their purposes, but I just don't like that.

I worked it out, and it works fine (mathmatically speaking).

But I can see your point.. but then again, it's not like he wouldn't do it - he tried to seduce Nala, who is younger. *shrugs*
August 12th, 2005, 07:45 AM
Melody of Scar

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Originally posted by Sombolia
I worked it out, and it works fine (mathmatically speaking).

But I can see your point.. but then again, it's not like he wouldn't do it - he tried to seduce Nala, who is younger. *shrugs*

Which is true.

... Let's just leave it at Scar's a horny old lion. :evilgrin:
August 12th, 2005, 08:04 AM
starlioness

he'd probably try to seduce Vitani or Kiara if he could...:eek: well, maybe not Kiara..:woeisme:
August 12th, 2005, 08:08 AM
Sombolia

LOL MoS XD

starlioness: I don't think so.. who in their right mind would wanna seduce Kiara (except Kovu, but he's obviously insane, so he doesn't count)? And Vitani's his daughter.. at least, in my warped, little fantasy world she is, even if that doesn't make mathmatical sense.

Shutting up now.
August 12th, 2005, 08:32 AM
Melody of Scar

NEVER SPEAK OF SCAR DEFILING HIMSELF BY EVEN TOUCHING KIARA... :die:

;) <3

Vitani/Scar would made me die a little inside.

And you mean "doesn't mathematically make sense", right Sombi? :evilgrin:
August 12th, 2005, 09:29 AM
Sombolia

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Originally posted by Melody of Scar
NEVER SPEAK OF SCAR DEFILING HIMSELF BY EVEN TOUCHING KIARA... :die:

;) <3

Vitani/Scar would made me die a little inside.

And you mean "doesn't mathematically make sense", right Sombi? :evilgrin:

I think Kovu is Scar's son, but Scar offically disowned him after he fell in love with Kiara, so Zira went back in time and erased all mentions of them being related.

This has been CONSPIRICY THEORIES FOR IDIOTS.

And I meant "even if that doesn't make mathmatical sense" - darn little -ly, slipping into my posts and messing up my grammar! >_<
August 12th, 2005, 02:14 PM
Nela

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Originally posted by Sombolia
Gah. I don't like WAO..

My fave is HLIY. ML is er.. different, WAO isn't my type of song, Upendi was just embarrassing, and LWFAW was okay.

Ugh... Upendi. I can't express my feelings for that song. Why did they even put that in the movie?! I think that was the worst song, IMO.... ML was okay, it was entertaining, but for younger kids, I'd have to disagree. :p I like cub Kovu more than the adult Kovu, I liked Zira's character Design, and I think she ties with Scar for me. Kiara... I like her, but... I just think she was missing something. They could have added more to her personality or something. I love Simba in the first movie, but not too much in the second. Vitani is the bomb... Nuka is cool, but whacked. Am I missing anyone? lol.... this is all MY OPINION...
August 24th, 2005, 11:16 AM
ChildOfThePride

Sorry to disappoint y'all, but Zira is Scar/Muffy's sister. I read it in a press release somewhere.

I'll dig that up at some point soon, I promise. Anyway, it does make a lot of sense.

What I think is, Scar and Zira plotted against Mufasa (we don't see this in TLK1 because, well, Zira didn't exist back then), but Scar (being the super evil genius we know n' love....:evilgrin: ) kept quiet with his plans whilst Zira did not.

It could be that Scar wanted Zira as his sister-queen ('no incest' indeed, Disney...), which would explain Nuka's haggard appearance. After that I surmise Scar told Zira to find a rogue, and perhaps if a suitable heir was not born, ordered them (the rogue) killed. But I'm crazy like that. :ayecapn:
August 24th, 2005, 11:29 AM
Sombolia

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Originally posted by ChildOfThePride
Sorry to disappoint y'all, but Zira is Scar/Muffy's sister. I read it in a press release somewhere.

*snort* Dude, that's the same "press release" that said Sarabi was banished to the Outlands and that Kovu is Scar's nephew. In short, it's crap.

http://fanart.lionking.org/Artists/T...Screengrab.gif
August 24th, 2005, 11:31 AM
ChildOfThePride

No it wasn't...

It was posted on Ultimate Disney, which is a very reputable source.

EDIT: Oh. Silly me, that's the official Disney site. LOL.
August 24th, 2005, 02:04 PM
Kiara Serengeti

I think we are just overcomplicating things.
August 24th, 2005, 08:06 PM
Melody of Scar

Wait.

Zira is Scar and Mufasa's sister? :confused:
August 24th, 2005, 10:01 PM
Sombolia

http://disney.go.com/disneyvideos/an...ngle_king.html

Tell if me that sounds right to you.. e_e

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