it could be, but as the beggining, timon mentions its behind the scenes
it could be, but as the beggining, timon mentions its behind the scenes
That doesn't change the fact that's it's a parody.
I mean, haven't you ever seen fanfic that says "this is what really happened"?
i dont think disney would spend loads of money just to make a parody, the reason why its really funny and mocks some of the original lion king scenes is becuase lion king 3 is aimed for smaller childeren so they do these things to make it funny for the children, thats my veiw
why would Disney Spend money on anything then?
The point of tlk 1.5 was(as previously stated above) to poke fun at, even show the events of tlk in another point of view. It is true that 1.5 has a lack of drama (mufasa's death ect.) but including such a scene in a parody would make it alot less amusing.Tlk had an edge in drama with a side of comedy, where tlk 1.5 pushed it to the max in the comedy department. Ill end this statement by saying that comparing tlk and its predecessor tlk 1.5 is literaly comparing drama vs. comedy.
On a personal note, I favor tlk over tlk 1.5. Just because of the abundant drama and clashing, not to mention that it had more of a soundtrack to it :cheese:
your right :cheese: i see wat u mean when u put it like that,Quote:
The point of tlk 1.5 was(as previously stated above) to poke fun at, even show the events of tlk in another point of view. It is true that 1.5 has a lack of drama (mufasa's death ect.) but including such a scene in a parody would make it alot less amusing.Tlk had an edge in drama with a side of comedy, where tlk 1.5 pushed it to the max in the comedy department. Ill end this statement by saying that comparing tlk and its predecessor tlk 1.5 is literaly comparing drama vs. comedy.
Yep, I believe that's exactly what LK 1.5 was intended to be, Somby and Shoukai! I sure agree with you but I can also understand why people don't like it.
Yeah, it got alot of dissaproving clucks. I can understand that too ;-;. The thread is just highly opinionated, and everyone is entitled to make their opinion =D!
I guess you can say that i liked 1.5 for giving us a better image of adolescent simba. For the five minutes that it actually did =.=
simba in the adolescent stages should of been extended. :grrr:
I am going to have to agree with this - adolescent Simba should have had a good portion of the middle so we could learn more about what happened there. I was excited when I first saw him, but then it was like "HAHAHA QUICK SCENE LOOK ADULT SIMBA111!!!" -.-
yep :slimey:
Another thing that puzzles me is, simba has care free days right, no hunting - animals, and he does nothing but just chill, meaning he has no fighting experience, so how can he beat scar or even have the nerve to when he hasnt even learnt any kills tactics or skill, if he had practiced to kill when he was in the jungle they should'nt of they shown this. :hmm:
1 was better than 2 and 1/2.
yup, i think most of us agree on that, thanks for your opinion, keep them coming :slimey:
Well, IMO, the sequels are never as good as the originals. TLK 2, IMO, was actually pretty good and it had a decent storyline behind it. TLK 3 (1 1/2) I wasn't too keen on. It didn't really have a proper storyline either. However, it's still funny in some parts.
I agree there too. The story of adolescent Simba should have been much longer. I discussed this with my sister the other day and she said the same. It was too short.Quote:
Originally posted by Melody of Scar
I am going to have to agree with this - adolescent Simba should have had a good portion of the middle so we could learn more about what happened there. I was excited when I first saw him, but then it was like "HAHAHA QUICK SCENE LOOK ADULT SIMBA111!!!" -.-
The sequels aren't all bad. I am with Somby, I actually like TLK3 (or 1 1/2 whatever). But as a parody, nothing serious. I never used to like TLK2 but taking screenshots of the movie, I have noticed that the animation is still good, the colours seem better, sure adult Simba looks like a grizzly bear (IMO) it's still a good movie. It has grown quite a lot on me over the last few months actually.
Grizzly bear. :lol:Quote:
Originally posted by Lucy Lioness
The sequels aren't all bad. I am with Somby, I actually like TLK3 (or 1 1/2 whatever). But as a parody, nothing serious. I never used to like TLK2 but taking screenshots of the movie, I have noticed that the animation is still good, the colours seem better, sure adult Simba looks like a grizzly bear (IMO) it's still a good movie. It has grown quite a lot on me over the last few months actually.
Still, the illustrations and animations of the characters don't really bother me although I do think Nala and Simba looked pretty weird. Kovu was really the highlight in that movie for me. ;)
Yes a grizzly bear. :D Just the way Simba seems so darn huge! I know lions are huge, but he is super big. :D And his chin is enormous! And, yes Nala did look weird, but not as weird as Simba IMO. :D
Just to compare the adult Simba in both TLK and SP...
http://img336.imageshack.us/img336/5...lesimba0ll.jpg
:bleen:
See? Smexy Simba to grizzly Simba. :p
:lol: Still, it could possibly be due to his age? :bleen:Quote:
Originally posted by Lucy Lioness
See? Smexy Simba to grizzly Simba. :p
talking of nala ealier on , in TLK 2 dont you think nala sounds different on her first few lines. :hmm:
Considering that Simba is the same through the whole movie, and we supposedly saw him at Kiara's presentation at the end of the 1st movie, I'm not sure. Bceuase they looked totally different. The whole thing looked different, making me think the cub at the end of the first movie was not Kiara. Conspiracy theory! :D
thats true lookin at it,
the cub at the end of TLK supossedly this is kiara but how can it, this cub at the end of TLK has a very small mane, like simba had when he was a cub, so how can it be a girl.
What I've noticed in the animators trying reanimate the original characters in the sequels is that it's just too hard for them, by some stupid reason they don't have enough good reference, or they just got lazy. Simba does look like a bear in TLK2, and like I said before, they didn't seem to settle on one design in TLK 1 1/2. I don't think age had nothing to do with it. They just can't draw the original TLK characters like they used to.:/
Timali had a good pic that she did explaining the confusion of Kiara and the cub at the end of TLK1.;)
Methinks the cub at the end of TLK 1 was a male, but the makers of the sequel decided to make the cub a female so they could have a better story. I think they are probs meant to be the same, but don't look it because of the change of the cub from a male to a female for SP's story.
that i think has to be the biggest goof.
the cub at the end of TLK is male (telling this by a yellow mane starting to grow on its heads) then in lion king 2 this cub is female.
In the books, TLK: SIX NEW ADVENTURES, there was a male cub named Kopa. However, then TLK 2 came out with Kiara, and there was no mention of Kopa.
it might of just followed on from the books then, but as you said where is kopa mentioned, :hmm:
This picture by Timali is a good explaination for this;)....
http://fanart.lionking.org/Artists/T...ahblahblah.jpg
Thank you, Katse. XD
i see, this explains alot, thanks katse :cheese:
Yeah, I was gonna go and look for that pic earlier. Anyways, thanks for that Katse. :cheese:
I don't think it's because his age he looks screwy, the story from Disney that we're supposed to believe is that the presentation at the end of 1 and the beginning of 2 were the same thing. So if that's true, he wouldn't be any older =P
Don't thank me, thank Timali for taking the time to put the pic together. I was just bored enough to go looking for it and post it here.:p
@ Somby: I agree with you there. I think it's just that they weren't able to reanimate him like the original animators. My last post before the one with the pic says that.;)
Yeah, I agree.. I mean, they could've at least used the right colors >_< ...they had charts.. =P
I think they made the mistake of using the colors of Simba and Nala when they were in the jungle. That could be an explaination for Nala's blue eyes is SP.
Lol, making Simba look less bear-like would be a start! :pQuote:
Originally posted by Sombolia
Yeah, I agree.. I mean, they could've at least used the right colors >_< ...they had charts.. =P
*I am in such a weird mood* Weeeee! :D
why did disney make a sequal with such a big gap in between, why couldnt they make a flush sequal so there would be no questions such as:
where where zira and the outlanders when TLK events took place?
when was zira banished?
etc etc etc ...
wouldnt of it been alot easier if they done a sequal which follows straight after the first lion king.
Yeah and my sister thought the only difference between Simba in the second movie to Simba in the original was that he just got too overprotective. She didn't think he looked weird. :gasp:Quote:
Originally posted by Lucy Lioness
Lol, making Simba look less bear-like would be a start! :p
*I am in such a weird mood* Weeeee! :D
Gaaaaah, I HATED Simba in TLK2... blargh.
You know, I have a GREAT theory.
The lions in TLK2 aren't the same lions from TLK at all, they just look vaugely similar have the same names!
IT'S PERFECT!
*weeps in corner*
Have you noticed that the same thing happens with original movie characters in other sequels, too? They get all freakishly overprotective of their kid, like Ariel and Tramp did in their sequels. I can kind of understand it with Ariel, since her father was the same way with her and that kind of thing tends to happen in families.*shrug* Tramp acting like that bothered me. If there was going to be an overprotective parent, I thought it'd be Lady. But back ontopic.XP
I just read somewhere(thanks, Sharifu;)) that they indeed, didn't really use the original model sheets for the characters in SP, at least they didn't for Timon.