Lulzsec and Hacktivism

Okay, so, in case all of you haven't kept up with recent online trends, a hack group called Lulzsec is going bat**** crazy all over the internet. Over the past 5 days, they have engaged combat with the [more] popular hacktivist group called Anonymous nested in a site called 4chan. Furthermore, they have taken down the CIA website, leaked out 62,000+ accounts and passwords to World of Warcraft, Gmail, Facebook, Runescape, Twitter, PayPal, you name it! These folks are big pieces of things that aren't allowed to be said on a pg13 site! They also have flooded the servers of popular MMORPG's including Minecraft, League of Legends, Heroes of Newerth, EVE Online through a method called DDOS.

I'd like to urge everyone to modify the passwords to your accounts right about now. If you have a twitter, search "Lulzsec" to keep up with what they're doing. It's not right, and they're ruining the internet for me. It also gives higher incentive for here in the US to do something even crazier about the internet after destroying net neutrality.

Smells like government staging to me.

This I highly doubt. Anonymous attacks groups like the WBC and some of the music industry for being pricks. Lulzsec takes down online games and emails and porn site accounts. Speculate all the government set ups you want, I'm interested in hearing how porn sites and mmo's tie up to congress with these hackers.

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Originally Posted by shadowland

Smells like government staging to me.

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Agreed.

Anyway... if you're concerned, you may check if your account has been leaked. http://gizmodo.com/5812545/find-out-...sec-right-here

As much as I trust Gizmodo...I don't go around entering my email address in random websites...this is my security system...
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Originally Posted by Asikinari

It also gives higher incentive for here in the US to do something even crazier about the internet after destroying net neutrality.

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Originally Posted by Asikinari

Speculate all the government set ups you want

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:lol:

Wouldn't be the first time a government has created a simulated crises to push a political agenda *cough* patriot act lol

Some years ago, one of the passwords i used were leaked from one big furry site, in that time i always used same password for all sites, now i use more than one to avoid a problem if one of them be leaked.

Anyway, to me is really hard to beleave that "only" hackers could damage the CIA website...

Really? I'm technically not afraid of these hacker because in my term, they are "SCUMBAGS!"

Of course I would be pissed if someone manage to get all my information through internet and leak it somewhere. I would get pissed, not being afraid of them!

About government involvement? I highly doubt they will pressure the internet users for any undoing except for breaking the laws!

Agree with Thiago, If one hacker breach into the confidential files by his own hand? It equal to a 4 human brain to sort things out to do the same thing! I generally disbelieve if one person done a big job without any help! Even terrorist required ten human brain and couple of hundred militant to take town New York eleven years ago, and that's involved both physical and mental work!

Generally those dude need to do physical exercise, need a hard discipline or social lifestyle instead exercise their fingers for 24 hours! But.... The weak ones are there to justify the strong. :wicked: :evilgrin:

My Paypal account was recently hacked (it was hacked almost a month ago though) and since then I haven't been able to log in and change my account details, so they can do all they want with that now. I'll have to get a new account to be able to use the account I have now on Paypal again. :woe: Darn hackers... -_-

:lol: I almost hope they leaked my WoW account, it hasn't been active in over 2 years and none of the personal information on it is correct except my first and last name.

What comes to hackers, they can be more dangerous than weapons of mass destruction as they can literally freeze all the connections in one or multiple countries. Thought I doubt any small group could do that, but I do remember when I was in military they were talking about how hackers are one of the most effective weapons in modern warfare.

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Originally Posted by Sadiki

:lol: I almost hope they leaked my WoW account, it hasn't been active in over 2 years and none of the personal information on it is correct except my first and last name.

What comes to hackers, they can be more dangerous than weapons of mass destruction as they can literally freeze all the connections in one or multiple countries. Thought I doubt any small group could do that, but I do remember when I was in military they were talking about how hackers are one of the most effective weapons in modern warfare.

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Yeah, like what happen when Wikileak leak some classified information on US government. indeed they could be a tool against one country by leaking it and use the advantage against the government itself like how journalism counter back their own government like in Libya.

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Originally Posted by Guntur

Yeah, like what happen when Wikileak leak some classified information on US government. indeed they could be a tool against one country by leaking it and use the advantage against the government itself like how journalism counter back their own government like in Libya.

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Wikileaks report from other sources, I don't think they're hackers themsselves. They'll report what mainstream media outlets (bought & paid for or not) won't.

If these are Americans playing these little hacker games, then that sounds like treason or sedition to me.

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Originally Posted by shadowland

Wikileaks report from other sources, I don't think they're hackers themsselves. They'll report what mainstream media outlets (bought & paid for or not) won't.

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As long as it suits their agenda.

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Originally Posted by Pntbll248

If these are Americans playing these little hacker games, then that sounds like treason or sedition to me.

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Treason is betrayal of your country..and in Amerikkuh it seems treason is also being an australian citizen reporting corruption within other countries :D cause y'know, treason is betrayal of your own country and all..lol. Hacker games = illegal intrusion, simple as that.

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Originally Posted by Pntbll248

As long as it suits their agenda.

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their agenda = exposing corrupt institutions and freedom of information. lol u mad?

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Originally Posted by shadowland

Treason is betrayal of your country..and in Amerikkuh it seems treason is also being an australian citizen reporting corruption within other countries :D cause y'know, treason is betrayal of your own country and all..lol. Hacker games = illegal intrusion, simple as that.





their agenda = exposing corrupt institutions and freedom of information. lol u mad?

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Calm down, there's no need to be so abrasive. You may have just missed it, but I said "If these people are Americans" and I was referring to lulsec hacking into CIA information. Those aren't Just hacker games in my humble opinion.

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Originally Posted by shadowland

Treason is betrayal of your country..and in Amerikkuh it seems treason is also being an australian citizen reporting corruption within other countries :D cause y'know, treason is betrayal of your own country and all..lol. Hacker games = illegal intrusion, simple as that.





their agenda = exposing corrupt institutions and freedom of information. lol u mad?

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We are talking more about professional hacker activity not a virtual wannabe. :p

Like Pnt tell us, it is treason since they are attempt to breach the security and break confidential files!

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Originally Posted by Pntbll248

Calm down, there's no need to be so abrasive. You may have just missed it, but I said "If these people are Americans" and I was referring to lulsec hacking into CIA information. Those aren't Just hacker games in my humble opinion.

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It is what it is, illegal intrusion. Adding technicality charges to it just cause you hate hackers is sad. And lay off of wikileaks.

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Originally Posted by Guntur

Really? I'm technically not afraid of these hacker because in my term, they are "SCUMBAGS!"

Of course I would be pissed if someone manage to get all my information through internet and leak it somewhere. I would get pissed, not being afraid of them!

About government involvement? I highly doubt they will pressure the internet users for any undoing except for breaking the laws!

Agree with Thiago, If one hacker breach into the confidential files by his own hand? It equal to a 4 human brain to sort things out to do the same thing! I generally disbelieve if one person done a big job without any help! Even terrorist required ten human brain and couple of hundred militant to take town New York eleven years ago, and that's involved both physical and mental work!

Generally those dude need to do physical exercise, need a hard discipline or social lifestyle instead exercise their fingers for 24 hours! But.... The weak ones are there to justify the strong.

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And you, why are you calling them scumbags? They clearly have the know-how and intelligence to break through sophisticated digital security systems, I'd say that demands some kind of respect whether you approve or not. Don't hate hackers cause they can do things you can't. Maybe it's out of fear, who knows.

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Originally Posted by shadowland

It is what it is, illegal intrusion. Adding technicality charges to it just cause you hate hackers is sad. And lay off of wikileaks.



And you, why are you calling them scumbags? They clearly have the know-how and intelligence to break through sophisticated digital security systems, I'd say that demands some kind of respect whether you approve or not. Don't hate hackers cause they can do things you can't. Maybe it's out of fear, who knows.

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LOL! :lol: They shouldn't get respect since they're committing crimes through breaching security. :p I don't see any positive towards someone who commit something that aren't good and pleased themselves by doing it. Since we're in internet, I can see why people praising hackers like their own heroes. :p

On side note, Hackers can't do things like I can: Making music, exploring on studio engineering, masters on certain instrument, and other stuff. :p

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Originally Posted by shadowland

And you, why are you calling them scumbags? They clearly have the know-how and intelligence to break through sophisticated digital security systems, I'd say that demands some kind of respect whether you approve or not. Don't hate hackers cause they can do things you can't. Maybe it's out of fear, who knows.

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Hmmm... I really must disagree with you on this. That you know how to do something, doesn't make it okay or intellectual. That one has capability to cause mayhem and breach highly secured databases, doesn't make it respectful by any means. It's nothing less than terrorism, no way what you look at it. And I personally have not slightest bit of respect towards these people.

And what comes them having intelligence, I hardly believe that. Knowledge, yes, but apparently their mind isn't capable on processing the moral part of what they are doing and the people it effects, which is that separates us from animals. Serial killers/psychopaths lack of moral as well and that's why they don't feel remorse towards their victims making it possible for them to do what they do. So yeah these people can have brain capacity above 99.9% of us, but as far as thinking of the consequences of their actions go I hardly would raise it above child's mind. Or maybe I'm wrong, maybe they are just evil by heart, but I think what it is mostly is that they are trying to push the limit of their capability and test what they can do and what they can't without really thinking what it does to rest of people.