Frozen

[KanuTGL]

Disney's upcoming feature film.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d_qR8YR6WeU

Anyone excited? I'm trying to stay as optimistic as possible :lol: Most of the trailers are pretty much on par with the ones for Tangled (and they were bad. Really bad.) but Tangled turned out to be a really good film, so I'm hoping it'll be the same way for Frozen. The one above is the best trailer so far, I think. But look at what they're claiming at 1 minute 48 seconds... :P

I'm not sold on the character designs (especially not Olaf's) and it seems very unoriginal to have an animal who isn't a dog behave like a dog... again... But otherwise I'm really interested in the storyline. I can't recall seeing a full-blown Disney feature production focus on the relationship between sisters before.

Also the setting is inspired by Scandinavia. And there's a character named Anna xP I'll be in the UK to see it when it premiers on the 6th of December regardless :D

[nathalie]

I know nothing about the original story, but Olaf rocks!

[cleargreenwater]

It probably makes me a terrible person on a Disney board, but the stupid snowman thing they're really pushing in it is so ugly/dumb looking/visually unappealing & annoying that I'm checked way out of this one already, sad to say. Unless everyone here starts coming in with some shockingly rave reviews, its a pass >_<

[Azerane]

I'm with you CGW, I really feel that the snowman is poorly designed and there is a bit too much of a focus on him. Really hoping the story pulls through though, as I really want it to be good! It has promise, but not sure how it's gonna pan out.

[Kasei]

Not gonna lie, I will see it. Just because I am a Disney fan. But I agree, the snowman design is so gross looking, I really don't want to have to look at it too much. It's just *too* ridiculous, I think. Though this is CERTAINLY better than the other preview I saw. Which was just the snowman and the caribou. e_e I guess we have to remember that they are still targeting these films at kids, as much as we want them to get on with it already and start making stuff for us big kids too. x3 You'd think they'd realize that there's a market for that by now....oh well.

Also, I think it's funny how they always try to use TLK as a way to get people to want to see the movie. Using our nostalgia and love of TLK to garner interest in these new films with promises of it being just as good. Oh Disney... x)

[nathalie]

aww, no love for Olaf :( haha

Most things I'm reading, why people don't feel like seeing it, is because they know the original story, and find that Disney may have gone a bit too far away from it then they usually do.
Sure they alter stuff for the happy endings and such, but I have been reading bad things, that it's not close to the original anymore at all.

I didn't even knew it came from a H.C Anderson book, lol.

So yes: the snowman rules! haha

[Leorgathar]

Hmmm yep... exactly the same feelings I had with Tangled when the trailers came out, with a ridiculous movie title and all. And yet, just like with Tangled, it could end up surprisingly good. I'll too be carefully optimistic, it still looks somewhat promising, and I'm sure it'll have some good and catchy songs. And well, I also cringe when I see Olaf's design and silly acting, he's so darn awful xP but I'll still give the snowman the benefit of doubt as well. Who knows, maybe in the movie he'll actually have a chance to shine

[KanuTGL]

The story used to be based on The Snow Queen (and was gonna be 2D *sob*), but I've heard it said by the creators that the story is pretty much an original now - hence the title change. I'm pretty sure they could've thought of something better than "Frozen", but one-word titles seem to be all the rage right now...

I'm hoping that they're putting an emphasis on Olaf in the trailers to attract kiddies who think he's funny, but that he will be a little less awful in the actual film. I thought Rapunzel seemed like a terrible, really uninteresting character too in the trailers for Tangled.

Soo, I'm staying optimistic, haha.

[Leorgathar]

You know, it might be a case like with Ray, the firefly in The Princess and the Frog. I didn't like that character in the trailers, I thought it was pretty stupid, but didn't bother me as much in the actual movie. Actually, I found his love story with a star kinda sweet, and it did move me when he passed away and became a star to join his Evangeline.

Maybe Olaf can bring something like that, who knows. Although yeah, I could be wrong and he could just be a kids magnet.

[Dare]

When I heard it was going to be based on The Snow Queen, I was excited - The Snow Queen is one of first stories I remember my grandma reading to me and it's always been a favorite. I knew that it was going to have to be Disneyfied, but the finished product does seem more like an original story and I'm glad they changed the name. In fact, it kinda annoys me when I read that it's "loosely" based on The Snow Queen - "loosely based" is an understatement..."inspired by" seems more fitting, at least to me.

Also not a fan of the character designs, but I think that may be because I'm tired of blonde-haired, big-eyed princesses...i recently saw Tangled and now I'm like "BLONDES! BLONDES EVERYWHERE! WHICH PRINCESS IS WHICH?!" The Snowman needs a one-way punt into the depths of Mount Doom.

I've read enough about it and seen enough clips to make me feel that it's not worth my money to see it at the cinema, but I will probably rent it when it goes to DVD.
It does look beautiful and entertaining, but I need to recalibrate my expectations and separate Frozen from The Snow Queen. Then, I'll be able to enjoy it for what it is...instead of constantly comparing it to what it is "loosely" based on.

[Kasei]

Who has seen this and what did you think? Without spoilers? I'm trying to decide if I should see it in theaters or wait until it comes out.

[TommyP32891]

I have seen it twice, and it really is a great film. Olaf is not as annoying like the trailers made you think. He's really the cutest thing ever. The songs are great. Let It Go is the song Disney will likely push for come Oscar time. The story was great, the characters are all likable even the villain who I will not reveal since there are likely many who haven't seen it yet. When people say it's the best since TLK they're not lying it really is though I'll take it a step further and say the best since Hunchback since up until now that was my favorite Disney movie.

[Kasei]

Wow, that good huh? Hmmm...I'm still going in skeptical since I've been let down before...but maybe I'll go see it tomorrow. There is a movie theater about a 5 minute walk from where I live and the whole city is shut down due to a huge ice storm right now so I haven't left my apartment in two days....maybe I'll go do that. x3 Here's hoping for the best!

[TommyP32891]

Yeah, I heard about that ice storm you guys are having, but yeah go see it it's great.

[KanuTGL]

I saw it with Adam on the 6th (on release day, woo! 8D) and... Well. I don't... know xP

Adam loved it and thought it was amazing. I think I need to see it a couple more times to really get the feel for it. I liked it, I did, but I wasn't blown away by it like I was after seeing Tangled for the first time. I wouldn't call it their best since The Lion King, but I think that if you're undecided on whether to see it or not, you should go. Sometimes I need to watch something a few times before I decide what I think and I'm pretty sure that I'll grow very fond of Frozen once I've seen it a couple more times, hehe.

Olaf wasn't the super annoying sidekick I feared and Sven was as much a reindeer as he was a "dog", so that was a relief :'D There were some plot twists I wish I hadn't known about before I saw it, but there are a fair few clever ones. Maybe if I hadn't known I would've been more "wowed" by the film straight away.

My main issues with the film are the animation and the character designs. There wasn't that much brilliant, shining animation going on and waay too many rubber faces :C There were so many shots that would have gained so much if they had been done in 2D. At the same time the effects work is incredible and they just wouldn't have been able to do that in 2D.

The character designs aren't a cohesive whole. Olaf and the big snow... creature work very well on their own, the people look okay on their own and the animals are fine on their own, but if you put them all in one shot they just don't... fit together. And that's a real shame.

Also, yes, in the credits it does actually say "Inspired by The Snow Queen" :p

[Dare]

Also, yes, in the credits it does actually say "Inspired by The Snow Queen" :p

That's a relief - now, if only we could get all of the online articles to follow suit. ^__^

[Kasei]

The character designs aren't a cohesive whole. Olaf and the big snow... creature work very well on their own, the people look okay on their own and the animals are fine on their own, but if you put them all in one shot they just don't... fit together. And that's a real shame.



Aaaah, thank you! You put into words exactly why I don't really want to see it that much. For me, animation is all about visuals (though good storytelling is a definite must) and I think that is what really bugs me about all the trailers and what I've seen, I just couldn't put my finger on it. They are so stylistically different, it all clashes visually--THAT is what it is. Thank you for clearing that up for me, I couldn't figure out what about the movie was turning me off without knowing anything about it. I just knew something seemed off.

[nathalie]

I'm not getting the "let it go" love yet ... I haven't seen the movie yet, probably won't till it comes out on DVD, but looking at what the character looks like, the voice just really does not fit for me.
Might change if I can actually see the 2 combined.

I like Demi's version much better right now.

[nathalie]

OK, I feel I need to comment again :p

Last night I saw the movie scene from "Let it go", and I stay with my first opinion.
The song is very powerfull, and it is really beautiful, but I still feel the voice doesn't fit the character, at least not when she sings.

Watched a few languages by now, Dutch/German/Flemish/French/Finnish/Spanish/Danish.
Loving all of those. Who'd have thought I'd like a Disney song in my own language, I usually hate them.

And Veronica Mars ????? haha
I actually thought it was Kirsten Dunst who would be doing the voice for Anna, I always mix those 2 up.
I love Kristen Bell, she so pretty <3 haha

I got the deluxe soundtrack, I'm so in love with the instrumental songs, I always love those.
Loving all the songs in general too.
"Love is an open door" is so catchy and cheerfull ^^

I'm finding the scene in "Let it go" where she lets her hair down, so beautifully done ... the movements she makes are really pretty and fluent!

For the rest, I'll have to wait for the DVD, lol.

[Sombolia]

I saw it, and I sort of have a... weird mix of emotions about it? Like, on one hand, it was actually better than I thought it would be, but it wasn't... good? The character designs were lazy, the music was forgettable, it felt more like some straight to DVD crap rather than a big budget Disney affair. Plus I'm reaaaally not a big fan of what Disney's doing with their princess movies lately--changing their names to some random adjective (Tangled, Frozen), focusing on comic relief characters/the male love interests in the trailers, ugh. And for a movie supposedly about the bond between sisters, they hardly have any screentime together, which I thought was disappointing. x__x Anna was waaay more screentime with her love interest.

There were some things I was pleasantly surprised by, though. Elsa is a great character, and I loved the relationship between her and Anna--it's too bad neither got a lot of screentime. They did something interesting with the whole "true love will break the spell" trope at the climax, which I wasn't expecting and really, really liked. Let It Go was a good song, beautifully preformed, but the animation during that scene is soooo awkward it's better just listening to the song on its own, I think. Like Elsa looks directly at the camera at the end and flashes some random Dreamworks sexy face to the audience, what the heck. :/

Also, I hated the snowman at first too but he's so not bad on film, really.

[nathalie]

I love Kristoff, if he were real ... I'd be in love, haha!

I think he looks amost perfect. Meaning, he's got normal eyes, like you mention the eyes from the girls are just too big (but that usually happens in 3D movies like this). His nose is maybe still a bit too cartoonish, but the hair and such, it's perfect, haha :lol:

I loved the animation during "Let it go". Some movements are so fluent and beautiful.
I love it how she looks at the camera at the end of the song, haha!

I never hated Olaf, I spot a cute character miles away, lolz.
He was a great addition in the movie. I did think he was pure comic relief before I saw the movie (as I didn't knew how and what), which he mainly is though, but when he's alone with Anna at the end of the movie, it's quite emotional.

Yes, I saw the movie ... *ahum* I found it somewhere, haha.

[KanuTGL]

Let It Go was a good song, beautifully preformed, but the animation during that scene is soooo awkward it's better just listening to the song on its own, I think. Like Elsa looks directly at the camera at the end and flashes some random Dreamworks sexy face to the audience, what the heck. :/
Yess, someone who agrees! There is a lot of animation that bothers me in Frozen overall, but there are shots in the Let It Go that will literally make me cringe, hah.

I feel like you can tell that animators sort of float around between workplaces now. There is no distinct 'Disney' animation style any more - everything moves in the same old way, regardless of which studio made it...

("Dreamworks sexy face"... :lol:!)

[nathalie]

I'm totally different on the song. I thought I saw movements and the way it was made that I had never seen before in animation.

I tell ya, when she lets her hair down, I feel like crying, so beautiful, haha!
I'm such an emo-person :p

[KanuTGL]

^ Yes, I can agree to that. That shot is beautiful <3 Despite the animation error with the hair that someone pointed out that I can't unsee now xP

[nathalie]

What error? o_O

No, better not tell me :lol:

[Sharifu]

Petteri and I finally saw Frozen yesterday, and I liked it.. Although not as much as Tangled. I don't think I like the songs as much as in Tangled, maybe expect for "Let it Go". The snow and ice effects were really pretty. I like the film enough to want to buy it on blu-ray, but I wouldn't say it's the best Disney film since The Lion King like that trailer says... XD It was enjoyable to watch though.

[Azerane]

Possible spoilers below.

Ok, so I saw it today and I'm glad I'm not the only one who thought that close-up at the end of Let It Go was a problem :lol: I've been avoiding reading too much of this thread and I purposely didn't listen to any of the songs prior to the movie. From the trailer, I was expecting to not like it, I did like it, however I'll agree with Sombolia and say that it wasn't all that good. It had good aspects, but the whole thing didn't mesh together as a nice whole. When the first song, Frozen Heart started, I was really optimistic about the feel of the movie, but it did fall a little flat. I don't quite know how to describe it, because I did enjoy it. Especially the atypical true love solution at the end.

You guys are right that the characters simply don't all mesh, and I'll agree that those large Princess eyes just make me think of Rapunzel, and that's about it :p The song For the First Time in Forever seemed to jump all over the place, and I didn't think it was that great. Other songs I did really enjoy though. I wasn't aware they were originally going to go 2D, but you can certainly tell why they made the switch. They've made some beautiful ice effects, but I'm afraid they probably spent all their money on that instead of fleshing out the movie a little better. Because apart from Elsa's mysterious ice powers that she was somehow born with, and a bunch of trolls, there's nothing else magical in the movie (Olaf and the snow monster are products of Elsa's magic) and it seems out of place with the rest of the movie. I know there's little magic in Tangled, but it seemed to mesh together better, and at least there was an explanation for why she had powers, and not just "born with it".

Also, I'm curious as to what the hair animation error is, tried watching it a couple times but can't quite pick it :p

The short version: Disney could've done way better :p

[Sharifu]

Also, I'm curious as to what the hair animation error is, tried watching it a couple times but can't quite pick it :p

I was wondering the same after reading what Kanu said. Then I found this on YouTube, someone pointed out at 3:04, her hair goes through her body... I can see it now after being pointed out.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=moSFlvxnbgk

[Azerane]

Hah, it totally does :p Thanks :D Big mistake for Disney.

[nathalie]

not in my favorite part :(

I tried hitting "pause" a million times, but I just can't see it o_O lol

And watching it more closely now, it also looks she isn't really looking straight into the camera but a tiny bit to the right (her left, lol).
Or that might be just me seeing it like that, ain't wearing my glasses right now :p

[Sharifu]

Well I read that Elsa's hair was extremely difficult for Disney to animate even more so then Rapunzel. I'm not sure why, is it because it's braided? But so is Anna's hair... I'm betting they had a lot of trouble with that scene to have to leave it like that?

Disney was hoping probably most people wouldn't notice, I didn't either, in fact I couldn't find it even trying to watch it second or third time trying to look for some kind of animation error. It wasn't until I read the comments on the video that someone pointed it out.

[nathalie]

I still didn't see it, lol. Will try and find a screenshot.

[KanuTGL]

Yeah, I only found it after I looked at that shot frame by frame, so I can let it slide, hehe.

[Sadiki]

3:05 on the clip Audra posted, you can see the hair was behind her in the one frame and then it's in front and she has both her arms up so the only way the hair could have got there is through her body.

[nathalie]

I still keep failing to see it. So I probably don't care about it, lol.
And reading from what it is, it's so minor ...

If the DVD comes out, and I still remember this, I'll have a better look with screenshots.

[Sombolia]

There's a part where Kristoff picks up Anna and his hands phase into her body, too. O_o Yikes... the mistakes aren't really noticable unless you look really closely or go by them frame by frame, but I don't remember seeing mistakes like that in Tangled??

I don't know, man. Frozen had a lot of potential. I love that it's a movie about the love between two sisters, and the film emphasises that a lot, but Anna and Elsa don't have nearly as much screen time together as Anna does with Hans and Kristoff... and like I said, the songs (save Let it Go) were forgettable, the plot was really sloppy, animation and designs were bland, etc. So I love the sister relationship, but I'm not a big fan of the movie as a whole.

[nathalie]

This one is noticeable: at the end of the movie, where did Olaf's cloud went off to?

I heard they were to close to the deadline, and therefor has more mistakes, even the crew didn't see, due to pressure.

Just a rumour, don't shoot me :p

[TommyP32891]

What is with all the hate? Am I seriously the only one here who absolutely loved it? I'd say it's Disney's best musical since Hunchback.

[nathalie]

We can't all like/love the same movie and we can't all share the same opinions ;)

If you like it so much, don't care what others say then, you have to like it, not them :)

[ThiagoPE]

I watched the movie in the premiere day here. I have a very mixed opinion about it. The beginning of the movie is extremely boring, because the excessive amount of events. The songs are pretty good, but not amazing. Olaf and Sven are one of the best comic Disney characters. In a 0 to 10 scale, my overall score for it is 6.

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[Azerane]

What is with all the hate? Am I seriously the only one here who absolutely loved it? I'd say it's Disney's best musical since Hunchback.

You don't understand all the hate for it, and I don't understand all the love for it that I'm seeing plastered literally all over facebook :p Different people will have different opinions. It just wasn't my thing.

[TommyP32891]

You don't understand all the hate for it, and I don't understand all the love for it that I'm seeing plastered literally all over facebook :p Different people will have different opinions. It just wasn't my thing.
I do think some people are mad because Disney is marketing it as the best since TLK which is wrong on their part. As I said it's the best since Hunchback. Have we forgotten the bad string of movies last decade Dinosaur? Atlantis? Home On The Range? Chicken Little (sorry Nathalie)? Bolt (Again sorry Nathalie)?

[Azerane]

Just because those movies might be bad, doesn't make Frozen good, perhaps in comparison but doesn't mean everyone's going to like them.

[Kasei]

I actually love Dinosaur and Atlantis... xD Goes to show that everyone is just different, I don't think anyone is trying to say that if you like or dislike a movie you are wrong. We are all just sharing thoughts and opinions. :) I'm definitely glad that Frozen seems to be doing so well, more incentive for more movies as far as I'm concerned. Now if they would just make another 2D film....*Wishful thinking*

[cleargreenwater]

That's what it boils down to for me really, I still haven't adjusted to 3D animation. Even though I know it isn't, it just always will "read" as less magical and lower-budget/cheaper looking to me, and I think that's what my problem is. I do want to see Frozen one day, but even with Tangled, it just doesn't translate to being as *crafted* as 2-D. I still have trouble seeing it as a blockbuster Disney production.

[Azerane]

It's almost like they've decided 2D OR 3D movies, not some of both, but it's not like they're mutually exclusive... :p

At the very least, with both Tangled and Frozen, I'm glad that Disney have worked back to their roots of movies with songs, a Disney movie without songs (while they can obviously still be good) is simply not a traditional Disney movie in my opinion, and they always feel like they're lacking something.

[nathalie]

I do think some people are mad because Disney is marketing it as the best since TLK which is wrong on their part. As I said it's the best since Hunchback. Have we forgotten the bad string of movies last decade Dinosaur? Atlantis? Home On The Range? Chicken Little (sorry Nathalie)? Bolt (Again sorry Nathalie)?

What do I have to do with Chicken Little? It's an OK movie, I just happen to really like 2 song, the rest is of it "blah".

And yeah, I liked Bolt, I also really liked Atlantis & Dinosaur.
We aren't the same, we don't have to like the same stuff you know ;)

And there you go, saying it's the best since Hunchback, while Disney said it's the best since TLK, same thing kind of ;)
That's yours and Disney's opinion on things.

Can't argue about opinions.
Even though some people do try.

[TommyP32891]

What do I have to do with Chicken Little? It's an OK movie, I just happen to really like 2 song, the rest is of it "blah".

And yeah, I liked Bolt, I also really liked Atlantis & Dinosaur.
We aren't the same, we don't have to like the same stuff you know ;)

And there you go, saying it's the best since Hunchback, while Disney said it's the best since TLK, same thing kind of ;)
That's yours and Disney's opinion on things.

Can't argue about opinions.
Even though some people do try.
I thought because you liked the 2 songs you liked all of CL. Bolt I didn't like because of Miley. Dinosaur & Atlantis were just OK to me. I think Lilo & Stitch & Treasure Planet handled the Sci-Fi better. It's my opinion & Disney's opinion yes. At least we're not stuck in the days of Home On The Range & Chicken Little anymore. I liked Frozen better than Princess And The Frog & Tangled. I have no doubt Tangled & Frozen would have been 2D if Princess And The Frog wasn't a disappointment to Disney which was their fault for putting it out the week before Avatar released. Or like the new Winnie The Pooh which was stupidly put out the same week as the last Harry Potter here. We should have gotten in Spring like the rest of the world did. Then again Pooh did well for what it was. Frozen may even beat Despicable Me 2 here which I hope happens as I am not a fan of that series, but that's due to me having a big Disney bias.

[nathalie]

Well, there you have it ... besides that stupid Yodel song, I quite enjoyed Home on the Range, lol.

You just can't argue about opinions.

So for me, Frozen isn't the best movie since TLK, like Disney says, because I like too many other movies that came inbetween these past 20 years. But I did really like Frozen, and will probably be considered as "one of my" favorites.

[TommyP32891]

Well, there you have it ... besides that stupid Yodel song, I quite enjoyed Home on the Range, lol.

You just can't argue about opinions.

So for me, Frozen isn't the best movie since TLK, like Disney says, because I like too many other movies that came inbetween these past 20 years. But I did really like Frozen, and will probably be considered as "one of my" favorites.
Roseanne is the only reason I'll watch Home On The Range. I love her. I just had expected more out of Disney especially since this was at the time the last 2D movie of theirs. This was also Menken's weakest score. Disney markets every single new movie bar Wreck-It Ralph for some reason as the best since TLK. They said the same thing about Princess And The Frog & Tangled, and I don't think either are as good as TLK. I just really loved Frozen, and I never wished to offend anybody with my opinion. I loved the songs, the story, the animation, Olaf. In one word I'd say it's assgbuetuigjksegutyehbjmgdis or just amazing in English.

[Sombolia]

It's not that I dislike 3D animation at all, I thought Tangled was a beautiful movie visually, but Frozen's animation was just bland in my opinion. It's like they tried to copy the exact animation style of Tangled, only... not as good, haha. I'd have preferred they'd tried something a little different, at least.

[KanuTGL]

So I've now at last had my second viewing of Frozen and I'm more towards "I like it" now. There are still things that will never stop bugging me, but there are a lot of moments that are very enjoyable and well executed.

The biggest problem I have with this film is still by far that Elsa and Anna's accident at the beginning of the film never is dealt with. They made at least five plantings that hinted at it, but it was never resolved. Aaargh! That is bad film-making and I can't really forgive them for that. All it would've taken was one or two lines by the elder troll, a look from Anna and that would've been fine >.<

The ending still feels very "last minute". Like, "Oh, darn, we're running out of screen time and we've still got to wrap this up! Quick, solve everything!".

And all that awkward sub-par animation... Most of the film does look just fine, a lot of it is great, but when it's bad it's bad... you are Disney; please make it better than this :C I can't help but feel like they've been trying to mask some poor character performances with pretty effects work.

But other than that, sure, I like it. They've done well for the short time they threw the film together in, but it could have been brilliant; another year of development wouldn't have hurt.

[nathalie]

I too would have thought when the troll looked at Anna's hair, he would remember her and mention something about it.

Rumours were that they were heading towards the dead-line with this one, and therefore ended up a bit more sloppy :/

[Azerane]

I got the opinion that the troll did remember her, he calls her by her name and until that point her name isn't mentioned in front of him since when she was a child.

After a couple more viewings, I have to admit that I was wrong. I'm enjoying the movie a lot more, the general feel with the songs is very "musical theater" style which is I think what's really drawn me in, there's a lot to them. The magic seems less out of place than it first did for me. Not being a complete animation buff, I don't particularly notice the rushed animation (apart from the obvious mistake already pointed out with the hair!!!).

My friend however did point out one thing that now bothers me and I realise how right she is.
The basics of it is, Hans didn't have to be a bad guy, in fact, there didn't need to a bad guy in the movie at all. The only hint of foreshadowing at his true character is the mention of his 12 older brothers and having to look elsewhere to find his own place. The rest of the movie, he's charming, polite and perfect. So he does a complete 360 in terms of character, which is why him being a bad guy is so unexpected.

My friend's theory is, that instead of not kissing Anna, he could have thought that they really did have true love and kissed her, but nothing happened... this then leads to him thinking that killing Elsa might undo it (because he still cares about Anna) So the whole scene on the ice still happens and he tries to kill Elsa with Anna stopping him. Anna realises that if he truly loved her, he wouldn't have tried to kill her sister, so thanks to Elsa for the foresight on not marrying a man she just met, Anna still ends up with Kristoff.

I thought about it and it makes a lot of sense. It also ruined the movie the next time I watched it :p You're welcome :lol:

[Guntur]

Hey guys, so Frozen is the top selling box office animated movie of all time. That's a good news for everyone who loved it.

What about The Lion King? :( :p

[Azerane]

It's 3D animated, it doesn't count ;) When they release a 2D animated movie that tops Lion King, then I'll be impressed :D

[Guntur]

I know, but probably today's standard won't accept 2d Animation anymore. I read about couple of articles that Frozen took over the mantle of most successful animated movies ever, they didn't mention 2d animation but they just mention "Frozen took over the best animated movie after The Lion King".

;) :haha:

[Azerane]

If it's done right, and well developed it shouldn't matter if it's 2D or not.

[Guntur]

If it's done right, and well developed it shouldn't matter if it's 2D or not.

Well the movie is done right IMO, So there's no hard feeling over this achievements.


Except for someone who bashed TLK over it.:grrr::naladisappointed:

what an immature response for me. >.<

[nathalie]

Can't argue about opinions.

[Dare]

Finally saw Frozen...mostly because the internet kept shoving it in my face and curiosity finally compelled me.
I thought it was ok - it kept me entertained and while I do think that some (ok, a LOT) of elements didn't add up for me, there isn't anything I can gripe about that hasn't already been said. Was more interested in the design elements (I love rosemaling) than the story anyway.

Still hate the singing/dancing/talking/merchandising snowman.

Loved the Screen Junkies Honest Trailer for Frozen (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zb5IH57SorQ)
"and the wickedly talented Adele Dazeem". 'Nuff said.

~ fin ~

[cleargreenwater]

^ That was pretty amusing.

I did see Frozen finally, too, twice over vacation because they had a bootleg.

It wasn't as terrible as I was afraid. Olaf wasn't completely obnoxious, they kept him cute & cuddly enough that I still felt like I was in a Disney movie and not trying to keep up with Sponge Bob/getting jittery. The soundtrack has grown on me, and yes I end up singing Let It Go when I hear it now. Could have done with about 3/4 less songs, but, when you have a Broadway singer on your payroll I guess you make your use out of them. I liked it more the second time I saw it and could appreciate some of the nuances they gave it, but the first viewing was unremarkable. I'm glad they're trying to create more contemporary fairytales, but at the same time, it is what it is and what it is is still another princess movie, I don't seem to see the same kind of gender crossover in fans that I see with even the My Little Pony series. I enjoyed it and it was pretty, though.

One thing that bothered the heck out of me, (and someone might have said it but even then, *I* need to get it out of my system, lol) where the frigg were the characters in space during the big climactic scene??? I had NO, **NO** idea where Elsa was in relation to Anna, and it made no damn sense when Anna suddenly throws herself right in front of her. WHERE WERE YOU IN ALL THE PANNED OUT SHOTS?? All you saw was Christoff coming towards Anna and whole big COMPLETELY EMPTY field of NOTHING all around her. And yet she sees and hears what's going on with her sister? And suddenly shows right up there in a blink? Does she have ESP and teleportation?

Seriously, I watched it twice because she runs in front of Elsa and I'm like....wait, what the heck just happened?? xD And it doesn't work any better the more you watch it, it's just really badly spatially executed, and it's THE climactic scene of the movie, to be disjointed like that is disorienting.

So my biggest complaint: make them actually be near each other to make the resolution happen!

o_O

[nathalie]

I don't understand why people (and I'm reading this all over the net) have problems with the amount of songs.
Remember Beauty and the Beast, Pocahontas? And not to mention, every single Disney movie.

Hmm, maybe in the 2000 movies there are less and less songs, but its not like Disney never put in so many songs before.

I was more bugged that the songs are mainly in the first half of the movie, leaving the second half 'empty'.

[Kirauni]

Whow...I've finally watched Frozen, too.
To be honest, I don't know what to say... At first I didn't have any intention of watching this movie. That's because the trailer didn't really motivate me to watch it and since my little one needed a lot of attention, I was not able to go to the cinema anyway.
Then the sort of "Frozen-hype" broke out. I don't mean it in a negative way. Just all of a sudden everyone around me started talking about the movie and how great it was. Even here ;)

And so yeah... I got curious. I also liked the song "let it go", so I thought I'd give this movie a chance and watched the 3D BluRay with my husband. Unfortunately, since so many people out there loved that movie, I also put my expectations higher. And I made the mistake of watching the "honest trailer" before actually watching the original movie. Oh well, but I laughed so hard.
The problem was that I couldn't take some scenes seriously ("We are cutting ice...") hah.. but that's not the fault of the movie. It was my own fault and curiosity killed the cat.

The movie is a nice Disney movie, no doubt about that. And I'm glad that there are many great songs in it. However the plot seemed a little bit "forced" and "rushed". Like some of you before there are points that disturbed me. How did Elsa manage to live in a room all those years? Okay, Tapunzel did that, too... but oh well. It was kind of strange for me. And how on earth could her loving-disney-parents approve of that? And same goes for Anna. There's a nice video on youtube out there. "How frozen should have ended" and it also covers some of my thoughts. I'm not really able to explain that properly in words.
So yeah... I have my problems with the movie, but I liked the idea that the prince is not always as shining and shimmering as you'd think he is. Of course, since I have been to curious, that didn't surprise me, but it worked well non the less.

Frozes is nice and I won't compare it to Tangled. I'm glad that Disney finally produced another successful movie and I hope there will be many other great movies in the future.

As about Frozen and TLK... well that's not really a fair question. When I watched TLK I was a kid. I won't be able to ever watch Frozen as a kid anymore, so there's no way of definately knowing how I'd have reacted to that movie. Maybe it would have inspired me like TLK did. Who knows?

[ThiagoPE]

I liked your opinion kirauni, I still don't know why frozen have this do huge success as it is just an good movie, nothing more than that.



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[nathalie]

The characters are just pretty, likeable, playefull (Anna), and the voice cast is great.
I think that adds a lot to the succes.
They are princesses, but not the standard-princesses we know, I think people seem to like that.

[ThiagoPE]

A friend of mine posted this in his facebook

http://www.buzzfeed.com/ryanhatesthis/here-is-definitive-proof-that-frozen-is-literally-the-same-m?bffbent&s=mobile

Finally I'm understanding the huge success of frozen....

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[Kirauni]

Haha, that made my day! Thanks.
I knew that chanting at the beginning sounded familiar ;)

Though in my opinion it didn't work well in Frozen. Reminded me too much if Brother Bear and TLK. And I thought the chant sounded more like an indian chant than something nordic... But maybe I've been playing too much Skyrim. ;)

[cleargreenwater]

And I thought the chant sounded more like an indian chant than something nordic...

The friend I watched the movie with said she thought she landed in Pocahontas at first instead :p

[nathalie]

When I first saw the begin song of Frozen, it made me think of Deliver Us, from the Prince of Egypt.

And other then that, Kristoff is just handsome. Period. :lol: that's a good enough reason :p

[lionkinglover]

Frozen Disappointed me. I didn't like it at all.