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JayJay
December 21st, 2005, 09:44 PM
Hi,

I?ve bought a copy of the book at ebay, but apparently the "limited edition sericel" is not included, but it was mentioned in the description at ebay. I?ve asked the seller and she says that it is a part of the book or included in one of the pages. But this is not the case, I?ve looked at every single page.

Does someone own this edition and knows how the sericel is included or can confirm that it is a separate part?

Aurelian
December 21st, 2005, 09:48 PM
Sounds like she doesn't even know, which leads me to believe that you got ripped off. Sorry.

This Land
December 21st, 2005, 09:58 PM
What is a sericel if i may ask?

Bahati
December 22nd, 2005, 03:20 AM
A serial, I believe.

Edit: Had no idea that a "sericel" was an actual thing. Thought it was a horrid mistype of serial. :lol:

Darkslash
December 22nd, 2005, 03:27 AM
It's an animation cel that's valuable, I believe.

nafklt
December 22nd, 2005, 06:10 AM
I don't think TAoTLK came with any sericels....:confused: And I don't think there were any "Limited Editions" either, but I know there was a miniature "pocket" version. But I don't own the book so I don't really know...:confused:

chaotic serenit
December 22nd, 2005, 07:02 AM
*chuckles* Sericels aren't generally valuable, sorry. They're just painted sheets that mimic actual animation cels, except mass produced rather than hand-drawn.

Maybe you're thinking LECs? Limited edition cels are templates created by the company that are hand-painted and released in very small quantities to keep the price jacked up. They aren't used in the actual making of the movie, but they are usually put together by good animators, on par with the production art of the movie. Because of this, they tend to be very, very valuable, easily well over $1,000, depending on the seller.

Actually, I'm unsure whether TLK actually used hand-drawn animation cels. There was a great deal of CGI present in the film, so I wouldn't be surprised if they simplified by the process by simply making it computer cel animation. It looks like they definitely did with either TLK2 or TLK1.5, but I can't say for sure. In the rare case that they did exist, if released, the prices would be beyond imagination. The LECs already go in the quadruple digits. An actual production cel from a high-end movie like TLK would market well into several thousand dollars.


If the book doesn't have a sericel, you can complain about it to her as misadvertising, but really, you aren't losing that much. They're usually just plastic/paint copies of posters or scenes released with the movies. Hardly anything worth raving about; the book is far more valuable.

nafklt
December 22nd, 2005, 08:10 AM
Originally posted by chaotic serenit
*chuckles* Sericels aren't generally valuable, sorry. They're just painted sheets that mimic actual animation cels, except mass produced rather than hand-drawn.

Maybe you're thinking LECs? Limited edition cels are templates created by the company that are hand-painted and released in very small quantities to keep the price jacked up. They aren't used in the actual making of the movie, but they are usually put together by good animators, on par with the production art of the movie. Because of this, they tend to be very, very valuable, easily well over $1,000, depending on the seller.

Actually, I'm unsure whether TLK actually used hand-drawn animation cels. There was a great deal of CGI present in the film, so I wouldn't be surprised if they simplified by the process by simply making it computer cel animation. It looks like they definitely did with either TLK2 or TLK1.5, but I can't say for sure. In the rare case that they did exist, if released, the prices would be beyond imagination. The LECs already go in the quadruple digits. An actual production cel from a high-end movie like TLK would market well into several thousand dollars.


If the book doesn't have a sericel, you can complain about it to her as misadvertising, but really, you aren't losing that much. They're usually just plastic/paint copies of posters or scenes released with the movies. Hardly anything worth raving about; the book is far more valuable.

TLK was completely hand-drawn except for the wildebeeste scene which they used their primitive little sun computers at the time to create. I dunno about TLK2 but TLK 1 1/2 was mostly done in computer (and it sucked)...:G

nathalie
December 22nd, 2005, 08:44 AM
Well, if seriecels aren't valuable, then why on earth do they ask 1.000 $ for some out there :eek:

I've seen many of those books passed on e-bay, and never saw anything with "special", "limited" or anything ...

So can't help you with that.

(ps: I know someone who actually makes cells, and believe me, even though hand drawed, they do look quite a lot like a PC drawing)

HasiraKali
December 22nd, 2005, 09:04 PM
There was a special edition of AoTLK. It was pretty much the same cover but there was a slip cover similar to those on the DVDs now. It was black or really dark blue and had a small image of the concept art of Mufasa's ghost right in the middle with the title above in metallic silver. As far as I know, there weren't any sericels included. It was just super special packageing. I don't have a special edition, but I have seen them on ebay from time to time.

soulImbibe
December 25th, 2005, 05:15 AM
Originally posted by nafklt
TLK was completely hand-drawn except for the wildebeeste scene which they used their primitive little sun computers at the time to create. I dunno about TLK2 but TLK 1 1/2 was mostly done in computer (and it sucked)...:G

The backgrounds were done by hand, and the character animation was done by hand, but the coloring/shading was done via computer. Hence any of the colored cels that are sold for TLK were not actually used for the movie production (whether they are super duper limited edition or not) but were created after the fact by hand.

The software that Disney used for the stampede and IJCWTBK is called CAPS.

"From 1990 on, there would no longer be any cels available that were actually used 'under camera' (although Disney has gladly tried to fill this void with the issue of numerous limited edition non-production cels)."
http://www.ggdc.org/mp-100xerox.htm